Equitable Mediation

Author: Joe Dillon, Divorce Mediator

  • High Net Worth Divorce Mistakes: 11 Errors That Cost Clients Millions (And How to Avoid Them)

    High Net Worth Divorce Mistakes: 11 Errors That Cost Clients Millions (And How to Avoid Them)

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    • A high asset divorce is one with $1,000,000 in liquid assets subject to negotiation and division.
    • There are a number of significant challenges unique to a high net worth divorcing couple.
    • Here are 11 critical mistakes to avoid so you don’t lose the wealth you’ve worked so hard to build.

    Divorce is challenging no matter what the circumstances. But divorces for high net worth spouses or couples with a considerable marital estate are significantly more complicated than divorces involving a more basic portfolio of assets. And there’s a lot more at stake!

    From a significant asset pool to non-traditional employee compensation, closely-held businesses, multiple high-value real estate properties, and high standards of living, valuing, negotiating, and coming to an agreement on all issues required to get a high net worth divorce is no easy feat. But how difficult (and costly) your high asset divorce will or won’t be, depends greatly on the divorce option you and your spouse choose, your eagerness to compromise, as well as your willingness to acknowledge each other’s contributions to the marriage.

    In this post you’ll learn the top concerns to watch out for in a high asset divorce. And what you and your spouse can do to preserve your financial resources and maintain control of your divorce outcome.

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    What is a high asset divorce?

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    A high asset divorce is one with $1,000,000 in liquid assets subject to negotiation and division. Not included in this figure is residential or commercial real estate, or closely-held businesses, even though all of these assets are also subject to discussion and possibly distribution.

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    What are the top concerns in a high asset divorce?

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    Every divorcing spouse has worries and concerns, but high asset cases come with many unique financial challenges. Let’s take a closer look at some of the critical issues that affect high net worth divorcing couples and 11 tragic mistakes to avoid.

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    Mistake #1 for a divorcing high net worth individual: Panicking if there’s no prenup

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    If you or your spouse entered your marriage with significant wealth, a prenuptial agreement may already be in place to define separate property and/or make asset division, child custody, and spousal support more straightforward at the time of your divorce. But if you’ve more recently acquired your net worth, such a document probably doesn’t exist. Leaving you to wonder if your divorce will turn into a three-ring circus!

    The good news is it doesn’t have to, but you must choose the right divorce process.

    Bill and Melinda Gates didn’t have a prenup. Neither did Jeff and Mackenzie Bezos. Yet somehow, they were able to come to terms in months instead of years in their high asset divorce case. And they’re two of the richest couples on the planet!

    Why do you think that is?

    Because instead of litigating publicly, where a family law judge would dictate the terms of the settlement, they knew it was better to negotiate the terms of their divorce settlement privately with the help of a skilled divorce mediator.

    And in an environment of dignity and respect, that neutral third party helped them negotiate directly and reach an agreement they both found fair and in both of their interests.

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    Mistake #2 in a high net worth divorce: Going straight to litigation instead of trying mediation first

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    If you’re facing divorce, your first thought might be to go straight to litigation in court. After all, that’s what your family law attorney said was common in complex cases like yours, and since your “attorney client relationship” is decent, you believe them. But what you need to know is that divorce mediation is a more cost-effective, efficient, and results-oriented alternative. And it can help you successfully resolve all issues necessary for divorce including:

    • The parenting plan – which outlines parenting time and the legal and physical child custody arrangements for your children, and;
    • Child support – which defines financial support for the kids’ living expenses, extracurricular activities, and other extraordinary expenses; and
    • Alimony – also known in some states as spousal support or spousal maintenance, which provides post-divorce financial support to the lower-earning spouse; and
    • The equitable division of your marital assets and liabilities – which is known in some states as equitable distribution and community property division in others.

    The issues required to get a divorce are exactly the same for wealthy couples as they are for those who earn a lower income or possess fewer marital assets. In addition to the wasted time and money, there is also a significant loss of control in divorce litigation in court.

    When you pursue a high net worth divorce through the courts, you relinquish control of the terms of your settlement and leave it in the hands of a family law judge.

    And it is highly likely you and your spouse will wind up with a settlement neither of you is satisfied with. Which greatly increases your likelihood of ending up back in court fighting about post-divorce issues in the future.

    In a paper titled “Divorce Mediation: Reflections on a Decade of Research” authored by J. Pearson and N. Thoennes, they found:

    “With respect to compliance with the agreement and re-litigation, 80% of divorcing spouses [who mediated] reported compliance, while only 60% of the adversarial parties did.”

    So if you’re willing to skip the courtroom war and instead negotiate in good faith and work together to come to a settlement you both find fair, it’s wise to mediate instead!

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    Mistake #3: Letting a sense of entitlement drive negotiations

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    For most individuals, the divorce process itself can elicit a wide range of feelings. But there is one above all to watch out for in a divorce involving a significant marital estate and that’s feeling a sense of entitlement.

    On one hand, if you’re the primary income-earning spouse, you may feel that you’re entitled to retain most of the marital property you’ve accumulated during the marriage. After all, it was your income that enabled you and your spouse to significantly grow your marital estate and gather asset after asset to build your net worth. You might strongly feel that your considerable, if not sole contribution, needs to be reflected in your divorce settlement.

    On the other hand, if you’re a spouse who gave up your career to raise your children, you may strongly feel that you’re entitled to retain most of the marital property accumulated while married. After all, it was your hard work inside the home that paved the way for your spouse to build a successful business or climb the corporate ladder to earn that significant income. While you collected a paycheck of… well, $0. You believe not only are you entitled to alimony to make up for your lack of income, but a majority share of your net worth to offset all your years of sacrifice.

    If you dig in and remain fully entrenched in a divorce position driven by a sense of entitlement, your substantial assets will likely evaporate during what’s sure to be contentious divorce proceedings.

    But if you can acknowledge that you each played a valuable role in earning your accumulated net worth and becoming a high asset couple, you can more likely negotiate an equitable division of your asset pool and preserve everything you both worked so hard to achieve.

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    Mistake #4: Not hiring the right divorce attorney or law firm (if your spouse won’t agree to mediate)

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    You might think because there are numerous valuable complex assets at stake, the financial cost to battle it out in litigation is well worth it, so you may be tempted to pursue a scorched earth strategy and hire the most aggressive lawyer you can find. One who vows to provide you with “fierce representation” and “take your spouse to the cleaners.” But the thing is, divorces with significant marital property and “pit bull” lawyer representation are a dangerous mix.

    Think it through. Each attorney and law firm bills by the hour for their hard-nosed advocacy. They have no incentive to help you reach a settlement agreement.

    To them, a high asset divorce is an endless stream of income, and the longer it goes on, the better for them.

    But not for you and your soon-to-be ex-spouse!

    In addition to depleting your financial net worth, this type of divorce approach also depletes your emotional capital. There’s a very real human cost to endless divorce litigation in the form of wasted years, burned bridges, and family destruction which you can expect if you pursue this strategy. So be smart. If your spouse won’t agree to mediate, do your homework and learn how to choose the right divorce lawyer.

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    Mistake #5: Failing to disclose or attempting to hide assets (or debts)

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    Every divorce, no matter how simple or complex requires a process known as discovery. During discovery, you and your spouse will disclose your complete financial picture including, but not limited to all income, assets, and debts. If your spouse suspected there were hidden assets, there’s an excellent chance a forensic accountant would be hired to uncover anything that was not voluntarily disclosed.

    According to the American Bar Association

    “Forensic accountants are specialists at unraveling financial and compliance puzzles for businesses, nonprofits, governmental entities, and individuals, using precise processes and a systematic investigation of data.”

    Forensic accountants (who charge an average fee of $15,000) excel at exposing an individual’s true financial picture and once they do, divorce proceedings often go from bad to worse!

    So don’t do it!

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    Mistake #6: Not planning for estate planning

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    Many wealthy couples choose to set aside a portion of their asset pool for the benefit of their children. But when they find themselves going through a divorce, those gifts can get squandered during divorce negotiations.

    Let’s say you and your spouse have two daughters and you always planned on paying for their weddings. According to The Knot, the average cost of a wedding in 2021 was $30,433, with couples in San Francisco spending more than $45,000, and in New York City more than $70,000 – not including honeymoons!

    To be safe, you and your spouse set aside $200,000 in an account titled in one of your names before a divorce was ever on your radar. But now you’re divorcing and your spouse wants half, while you insist it should be removed from your collective asset pool because it’s earmarked for your children. Round and round you’ll go until you each need to deplete that account in order to pay your skyrocketing legal fees. Arguing over what was supposed to be a gift for your children can quickly turn into a bone of contention between you and your spouse if you’re not careful.

    A good time to pull out your estate plan is before starting a high asset divorce. This way, you can review it with your spouse and remove from your negotiations any asset or property earmarked for others.

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    Mistake #7 in a high asset divorce case: Assuming inheritances

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    For married couples who have wealthy parents who are still living, the issue of assuming future inheritances can be a dangerous game. And can have significant financial consequences on both your property division and alimony agreements. One spouse may assume the other spouse is certain to receive an inheritance, but as the old saying goes, there are no guarantees in life.

    For example, let’s say there’s a couple divorcing after 20 years of marriage and during the marriage, they accumulated substantial business assets as owners of a local chain of successful sporting goods stores. During their divorce, one spouse insists on retaining the full value of the business because they’re convinced the other spouse will receive a significant inheritance from their father who is still alive. The other spouse doesn’t agree because they have two siblings the father clearly favors. They think that even if an inheritance is received, it will be much smaller given the family dynamics.

    The couple has no way of knowing if and/or when this inheritance will be realized, yet one spouse wants to factor it into the divorce negotiations. And around they’ll go in adversarial litigation with no resolution in sight.

    Some individuals are self-made and acquire their own wealth, while others obtain it by having wealth passed to them via an inheritance.

    And while it’s our opinion assuming inheritances is never a good idea, be sure to raise this issue early on with your divorce professional to get their guidance on the best way to handle it in your unique situation.

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    Mistake #8: Not factoring in taxation issues and how they can affect your settlement

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    While issues surrounding taxation are relevant in all divorces, in a high asset case, they can play an outsized role due to the value of a couple’s property as well as the complexities of their investments.

    Sale of a Marital Home:

    Currently, a capital gains tax exemption of $500,000 is afforded to married couples who sell a home. So should you choose to sell your home, depending on its value, you may exceed this exemption threshold and incur significant capital gains on the sale.

    These funds must be estimated and set aside (or held in a trust account) so as not to muddy the negotiation waters and ensure their availability for when the taxman cometh. Otherwise, you may find yourself holding the bag and having to go to court to get your now ex-spouse to pay their share.

    Brokerage Accounts:

    A lifetime of investing (hopefully) resulted in a lifetime of gains. Gains which Uncle Sam is going to want a piece of upon sale – whenever that may be. Be aware that even if your total holdings look equal on paper, tax gains and tax losses can impact their value significantly, making that 50-50 split not so equal.

    Seek out a fair and equitable split from both a valuation and tax perspective at the time of your negotiations. Otherwise, you may find yourself renegotiating your settlement at the 11th hour, costing you more time, money, and stress.

    The timing of your divorce filing:

    Most people don’t know that their marital status on December 31st determines their filing status for tax purposes. So if you get divorced on December 30th, even though you were married for 364 days, come April 15th of the following year, you file separately.

    Companies typically issue bonuses early in the year, so you and your spouse may have put those funds to use before divorcing. Leaving the bonus recipient impacted come tax time if you file separately the following tax year. A potential tax burden post-divorce can create an imbalanced settlement, especially if the bonus was significant, and send you and your ex-spouse back to the courthouse.

    If you think taxation issues will play a significant role in your divorce, be sure to work with a divorce professional with a financial background to ensure you both come to an agreement that’s fair and factors the complex issues of taxation into your settlement.

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    Mistake #9: Not recognizing that determining child support and alimony is far more complex in a high net worth divorce

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    Here in the United States, all 50 states have guidelines for child support. These “guidelines,” while helpful in some cases, are difficult to apply to high-income earners or self-employed individuals – for many reasons.

    Some state guidelines have an “upper-income limit,” so if your earnings exceed a certain amount, the guidelines become useless and cannot be used as designed. And because guidelines assume income is the same month-to-month, they become less effective if your compensation includes variable components like commissions, bonuses, RSU, or stock options.

    Child support guidelines are typically intended to cover ordinary expenses like food and shelter, but children incur many other expenses which fall outside the guidelines such as car insurance, summer camp, and private school to name a few, which need to be negotiated separately.

    And since children of wealthy families tend to have higher extraordinary expenses than children from lower-income families (and two households are more expensive to run than one,) this is a topic that can create a lot of disagreement between divorcing parents.

    While guidelines do exist for resolving matters of child support, they come with significant limitations which leave parties no choice but to negotiate an amount they both find fair, and not cause their children to become the economic victims of their divorce.

    Alimony:

    Unlike child support, where all 50 states have a guideline for determining it, only a handful of states have a guideline for alimony. And of the ones that do, guidelines are rarely useful for high-earning individuals. This makes coming to an agreement on alimony especially challenging.

    First, even though income may be significant, what was enjoyed by the parties as their marital lifestyle may not be possible once divorced. One or both parties may believe they are still entitled to live in the same manner they’re accustomed to. And demand to receive or retain a significant portion of the earned income.

    Second, high-level employees are typically compensated in less traditional ways than lower-level employees. For example, bonuses and equity shares received by partners in a firm can vary significantly from year-to-year based on factors outside of their control (e.g. the pandemic,) while other forms of compensation such as restricted stock units or stock options may not be easily realized as income due to vesting periods or stock market fluctuations.

    And third is the employment risk associated with a high earning individual. When lower-level employees lose their job, there is far less income loss at stake. And replacement jobs are easier to find. As opposed to high-level employees whose compensation is significant, and replacement job pool is much more limited.

    While there may be substantial income at stake, parties must understand and factor into their negotiations the unique risks and complexities associated with a high net worth divorce case.

    And be sure to plan now for changes in future circumstances to avoid having to return to court down the road!

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    Mistake #10: Not accepting how your lifestyle will change post-divorce

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    In our experience with high asset cases, typically one party is in charge of the household finances. And that spouse has detailed knowledge of the couple’s expenses and income required to maintain the marital lifestyle. As well as what areas of spending may need to be reduced after divorce because there will be increased costs associated with having two separate households.

    There’s no doubt it can be very upsetting to need to make adjustments to spending and lifestyles post-divorce.

    But if you’re a spouse who has no idea about what it costs to maintain the marital lifestyle, and high standard of living, it’s smart to get educated on your current financial picture now.

    This way, you won’t have unrealistic settlement demands that only drag your divorce out for years, adding expense and stress – and preventing you and your spouse from reaching a negotiated settlement.

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    Mistake #11: Thinking you can’t have an amicable divorce if you’re a high net worth individual

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    Most people think it’s not possible for a high net worth couple to divorce amicably. But that’s simply not true! Just because you have significant financial resources doesn’t mean you need to waste them during your divorce. Instead, you can choose to approach your divorce in ways that will enable you and your spouse to work together to end your marriage peacefully and productively.

    If you put the needs of your children first, engage in full financial disclosure, and negotiate the terms of your settlement in an environment of mutual respect and dignity, you’ll improve your ability to get an agreement you feel comfortable with.

    And at the same time, preserve your wealth! So it’s better for you and your children.

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    Key takeaways: High-net-worth divorce dos and don’ts

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    Do:

    • Prioritize mediation as a cost-effective and amicable alternative to litigation, which helps preserve both financial resources and personal relationships.
    • Engage professionals with financial expertise, such as divorce mediators and forensic accountants, to ensure a fair and comprehensive asset division.
    • Review and potentially update your estate plan before entering divorce negotiations to protect assets earmarked for children or other beneficiaries.
    • Practice full financial disclosure and transparency to avoid legal complications and potential penalties.
    • Approach divorce negotiations with mutual respect, acknowledging each spouse’s contributions to the marriage and focusing on achieving a fair settlement.
    • Consider the long-term tax implications of your divorce settlement and factor these into your negotiations.

    Don’t:

    • Don’t let a sense of entitlement drive your divorce negotiations, which can lead to prolonged and costly legal battles.
    • Avoid hiding assets or debts, as forensic accountants can easily uncover such attempts, leading to severe legal consequences.
    • Don’t assume future inheritances or factor them into your divorce settlement without concrete evidence.
    • Refrain from hiring an overly aggressive attorney who might prolong litigation for their own financial benefit.
    • Don’t go directly to litigation without first exploring alternative dispute resolution methods like mediation.
    • Avoid making unrealistic demands about maintaining your exact marital lifestyle post-divorce, as significant adjustments are often necessary.

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    Silver Divorce After 60: a Guide to Reaching Agreement When Divorcing Later in Life

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    While the overall divorce rate has flattened for most age groups, there is one segment of the population where divorce rates are actually increasing – Americans getting divorced at 60+. A phenomenon known as gray divorce.

    Certainly, divorce is difficult no matter how long you’ve been married or how old you are. But if you’re getting a divorce in your 60s, there’s a whole lot more you need to know – and watch out for. As a divorce mediator specializing in gray divorce, I’ve helped hundreds of couples navigate this transition with dignity and mutual respect.

    And while there are a million things that could be the reason a marriage ends, drawing from my many years of experience, there are 8 common themes that arise which I’ll share below. I’ll also share 9 critical issues that can have a significant impact on your divorce so you can negotiate your agreement with confidence. And 3 reasons why I believe mediation is your best option for a divorce after a long term marriage.

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    What is a gray divorce?

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    When the term was first coined, it referred to men and women who divorced after 40 years or more of marriage. The assumption was that anyone married for that long must be an older adult “starting to gray,” hence the name.

    But these days, it’s more commonly used to refer to the increased divorce rate among baby boomers, separating after 30 years of marriage.

    So why the divorce increase in this segment of the population?

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    8 reasons a marriage ends after 30 years

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    Reason #1: “We’ve simply grown apart.”

    Some couples can pinpoint the exact cause of the demise of the marriage. But in a divorce after 30 years, there is often no infidelity and no major blowout that led to the decision to get divorced. Instead, the spouses have simply grown apart over time.

    They have an adult child or their youngest goes off to college (aka “empty nest syndrome.”)

    You’ve spent the better part of your marriage raising kids and now you’ve found yourself without the children to focus on. Suddenly you find yourself uncomfortable being around this person you no longer know. Which leads to an empty nesters divorce.

    Retirement.

    When a couple is working and/or raising kids, they’re busy. Perhaps so busy that they don’t notice they are growing farther apart with each passing year. But now that one or both have retired, they have a lot more time on their hands and again, realize they no longer know (or like) their husband or wife.

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    Reason #2: Age

    Aging stinks. But being around someone who acts old can make us feel old. For some, when they see their husband or wife aging (or repeatedly hear them complaining and being negative), it can be an unwelcome reminder that they’re getting older, too.

    Perhaps they think if they got divorced for someone younger, it will reverse time for them as well.

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    Reason #3: Self-improvement and personal growth

    After so many years of looking, dressing, or feeling the same way, some people want to make changes to the way they are living their life (lose weight, exercise, improve their appearance). But to do that, they need a spark lit under them to get them motivated to make their desired changes.

    Sometimes people think meeting or pursuing someone new will make them try harder in life, lose weight, dress better, etc. and help them achieve the changes they seek.

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    Reason #4: Money and spending habits

    When couples are in their prime earning years, a lot of financial missteps can be overlooked. Because the money keeps flowing in, the bills somehow get “taken care of” and the overspending spouse is ignorant of the couple’s precarious financial situation. But once the income stream stops and the couple is forced to live on a fixed income, pension plan, or other retirement benefits, it can be quite sobering.

    Differences in spending habits become abundantly clear. And may lead to one spouse wanting to get divorced.

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    Reason #5: Longer life expectancy

    According to data compiled by the Social Security Administration of 2021:

    • A man reaching age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 84.3.
    • A woman turning age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 86.6.
    • About one out of every four 65-year-olds today will live past age 90.
    • One out of 10 will live past age 95.

    For couples seeking this type of divorce, it’s quite possible each spouse could live another 30, 40 even 50 years. So one thinks, “Why spend the time I have left on this earth miserable in an unhappy marriage?”

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    Reason #6: Undo past regrets

    Back in the day, getting married was just as much a function of romance, and it was economic necessity. Many people – perhaps like you – married for the wrong reasons, started a family, and now here you are filled with regret, stuck in a loveless relationship, as you reflect on your life. You’ve now decided after all these years that being unhappily married to the wrong person is no longer acceptable to you.

    Many of our clients fall into this category and in these cases, it’s usually not a surprise that a change in marital status is coming as both spouses have been unhappy for a very long time. By the time they decide to divorce, the fighting has subsided and they’re both in the camp of simply wanting to move forward separately with their lives.

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    Reason #7: Sex

    Just like differences in spending habits, differences in sex drives can also sink a marriage.

    As spouses get older, their libidos may differ, sometimes dramatically. This can lead to frustration and ultimately the desire to divorce.

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    Reason #8: Active vs. passive lifestyles

    When one spouse wants an active retirement and one refers to it as “re-tired-ment,” it’s a real problem. Because one wants to get out there and live it up, and the other has no interest.

    Half of the time, the passive party simply wants nothing to do with the divorce. And places the burden of getting a divorce on the active spouse. So if you’re the active spouse, be aware that it may be you who needs to drive the divorce.

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    9 Critical gray divorce issues to watch out for

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    No matter why you’re seeking a divorce later in life, the fact is longer the couple’s marriage lasted, the more complex the issues surrounding their divorce will be.

    Here are 9 critical gray divorce issues and financial challenges that – if you’re not careful – can really derail your divorce:

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    Issue #1: Determining an amount and duration of alimony

    Chances are the person paying alimony is late in their career. And their compensation is far more complex than when they first started out. So when determining an amount of alimony in a long-term marriage, the total compensation received needs to be taken into account. Not just their base salary.

    Plus, when getting a divorce at 60, you’re only a few short years from retirement. And that income will significantly change. So the duration of support may be far shorter for older couples than younger ones. Despite what you’ve read on the Internet.

    This is where negotiating property division and Social Security benefits becomes especially important.

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    Issue #2: Determining the value of premarital assets like retirement plans or proving separate property vs. marital property

    In New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York, and 37 other states, dividing a couple’s marital assets and liabilities falls under the concept of equitable distribution. While in California, Washington, and seven others, the concepts of community property are applied.

    Say you live in an equitable distribution state, you’re 63, got married at 36, and have this 401(k) retirement plan that you’ve been contributing to since you were 25. Do you really have the statements from the day you got married to know what its pre-marital value is?

    Or you live in a community property state and have owned a baseball card collection from before you were married which has appreciated significantly over the years. Can you prove this is separate property and shouldn’t be included in your property division?

    Because you could be giving away pre-marital property or separate assets your soon-to-be ex-spouse is not entitled to.

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    Issue #3: Inheritances

    Inheritances are considered “separate property” and are typically not subject to distribution in a divorce. But they can most certainly have a tremendous impact on your divorce settlement and finances. One way is if they’re co-mingled. That can be done in many ways far too numerous to get into here. A second way is how an inheritance impacts the division of your marital assets and liabilities.

    For example, let’s say the division of your assets and liabilities turns out to be 50-50. With each of you receiving half of the retirement assets. But your husband or wife inherited a $500,000 lump sum from their now-deceased parents. So was your distribution really 50-50?

    On one hand, the assets subject to distribution were split equally. But the reality is your total asset pool is not 50-50. And does income earned from investing that inheritance count towards a person’s ability to pay or receive alimony?

    As you can see, gray divorce issues for an older couple can get quite complex. But inheritances should not be forgotten about in divorce negotiations.

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    Issue #4: Social Security

    You may have heard that when spouses in long-term marriages divorce, one party can collect Social Security off of the other party’s earnings. And while this is somewhat true, there are requirements and limitations.

    So when negotiating alimony in a silver divorce, don’t forget about the difference in your potential benefits. Income equalization in a technique I use in mediation to help couples close to retirement, balance their future incomes. And share in the other’s monthly benefit for some period of time.

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    Issue #5: Life insurance

    Most people don’t know this, but anyone paying alimony is required to have life insurance in an amount and for a term equal to the amount and duration of alimony agreed to in their divorce decree.

    So now you’re 60 and your term life policy is about to expire. Well, guess what? You need to get a new policy with a death benefit and duration to cover your alimony obligation. Which may prove quite costly.

    And that’s a fair point.

    The good news is there are other ways to address it using techniques like alimony buyouts or set asides in an estate plan.

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    Issue #6: Difficulty dividing pension plans or other retirement accounts

    While many companies are moving towards self-directed retirement accounts like 401(k)s, state and local governments still offer pension plans to their employees.

    A pension is a promise made by an employer to provide an employee a monthly payment (typically) until they pass away.

    For corporate plans, it’s a bit more straightforward. Do a PV calculation, determine the Coverture Fraction, get a QDRO, and a separate interest can be created and the benefit shared between the parties.

    But when it comes to government plans, it’s not nearly as straightforward. So if your husband or wife was a civil servant or government employee, be aware that it may not be as easy to value and share a pension as it would be if they worked in a corporation.

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    Issue #7: College and extraordinary child support

    Maybe you’re one of the fortunate few who’ve managed to put away a certain amount to fund their children’s college education(s). If you’re getting a divorce at 60+, you may be right at that spot where you’re kids are either still in college, grad school, or have even boomeranged home.

    Plus, you may still be paying child support for extraordinary expenses like car insurance, cell phone plans, and travel back and forth from school. And your ability to retire may be further away than you’d like it to be.

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    Issue #8: What to do with the house?

    For the most part, a marital home is the most valuable asset a couple getting divorced after 30 years has. But it’s not necessarily easy to divide.

    If one spouse wants to keep it, they’ll need to buy the other one out. Which may provide difficult. Especially if you need to get a mortgage. And if you sell it, where will you both live? Divorce is one of the biggest life changes. And now you’ll have to move too?

    Depending on your circumstances, there are ways to keep the house without having to re-fi right away.

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    Issue #9: Health insurance

    In the US, most of us get our health insurance from our employer. And if you’ve spent your life working inside the home raising children, chances are you don’t have coverage of your own.

    When getting a divorce at 60, premiums will be costly. So be sure to investigate the cost before you enter alimony negotiations. Look into both COBRA as well as the insurance marketplace and add the cost to your apart budget.

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    3 reasons why mediation is your best option for a divorce later in life

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    1. You don’t want to waste a lot of money on your divorce.

    If you’re pursuing a gray divorce chances are you’re in your early 60’s and close to retirement age. So if you spend a ton of money on your divorce, you won’t have a lot of time to recover financially.

    To give you an idea:

    • The average cost of a collaborative divorce is between $25,000 to $50,000; and that’s if things “go well.”
    • The average cost of a litigated divorce is between $75,000 and $150,000; provided you can settle things in your first trip to court.
    • If things aren’t going well, and your divorce drags on for a long time, you can expect to spend $200,000 or more on your divorce.

    On the other hand, the average total cost of a mediated divorce is between $6,000 and $10,000.

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    2. You don’t want to waste a lot of time on your divorce.

    Let me be clear. I am not encouraging you to rush through your divorce. But the simple fact is when attorneys are involved, the divorce process is not only more expensive, but can take a very long time.

    • The average length of the collaborative law process is 8 months to 1.5 years.
    • The average length of a litigated divorce is between 2 and 3 years.

    The average length of a mediated divorce is only 4 to 5 months from start to finish.

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    3. You don’t want to add any more stress to your already stressful life.

    At this stage of your life, you’ve probably got a lot of challenges and worries. And now you’re adding a divorce into that mix.

    Even if you’re the initiator, divorce is one of the most stressful events you will ever have to endure in your life. Second only to the death of a parent or loved one. So why then would you choose to involve divorce attorneys and pile even more stress on to an already unpleasant situation?

    A litigated divorce process using divorce lawyers is the epitome of stress vs. mediation which is a more peaceful process.

    While divorce after 30 years of marriage represents a major life transition, it doesn’t necessarily have to define your future. With careful planning, and the love of friends and care of support groups, divorce at 60+ can set you on a course from loneliness to thriving.

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    Take your first step towards a peaceful divorce

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  • Business Owner’s Divorce Guide: How to Protect Your Family and Your Enterprise

    Business Owner’s Divorce Guide: How to Protect Your Family and Your Enterprise

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    As experts in divorce for business owners, we understand the sacrifices you and your family made to get where you are. In many cases taking years, if not decades, to build a business or professional practice you can be proud of.

    When you own a business, going through a divorce often raises many questions:

    • How do you determine what it’s actually worth?
    • What’s the best way to divide a business in a divorce?
    • How do you define what percentage is considered marital property?
    • And how do you protect your business and get the best divorce outcome with a business involved?

    Now that you’re ending your marriage, you want to make sure your agreement balances both your interests while acknowledging the scheduling challenges, compensation, and income complexities unique to a self-employed entrepreneurial lifestyle. And at the same time, prevent outsiders from destroying everything you’ve worked so hard to build.

    Let’s dive deeper into each of these questions so you can approach your own divorce case with clarity and confidence.

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    Note: As we provide mediation services in the community property states of Washington and California, and the equitable distribution states of IllinoisNew YorkNew Jersey, and Pennsylvania, we’ve successfully helped divorcing couples reach agreement using both property division approaches.

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    There are a few things you need to understand about the challenges of divorce with a business involved:

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    • There’s more than one business valuation method and the various methods can produce wildly different results;
    • The best method to divide a business in a divorce isn’t the same for everyone;
    • Determining what percentage of a private business is considered marital assets can also be difficult, especially when dividing assets during a divorce;
    • Parenting time, child support, and spousal support can all be unwittingly impacted in a business owner divorce;
    • Divorce with a business involved has less to do with laws and more to do with money and negotiation;
    • There is more than meets the eye on this topic and this issue is much too complex for you and your spouse to try to resolve on your own.

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    Business valuation in a divorce

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    There’s more than one method for valuing businesses and the various methods can produce wildly different results.

    It’s a common misconception when getting a business valuation for divorce purposes, that valuators will produce a report with a single value. But that’s rarely the case.

    At a high level, the three methods are:

    1. The cost approach which is based on the fair market value of a business’s net assets;
    2. The market approach which values a business based on what other similar businesses have sold for in the recent past;
    3. The income approach which uses projected earnings to derive a present value for the business.

    Depending on the type of business you have, one approach may be more suitable than another. But each of these valuations can produce wildly different results. In some of the cases I’ve mediated, one of these methods showed a positive value, while another showed a negative value.

    Let’s say you’re one of the 28% of Americans who is a small business owner and you want to sell your business ownership – and in this example, you’re NOT also getting a divorce. Naturally, you’d want to use the method that resulted in the highest value. And your spouse would want to use that valuation method, too.

    But since you are getting a divorce, and your business will become a marital asset (subject to community property division, or equitable distribution you might want to use the valuation method that resulted in the lowest business’ value.

    You and your spouse’s interest are now immediately at odds. And if each of you has a divorce attorney representing you, naturally, they’re going to argue for whichever outcome is best for their client. Which can turn most businesses from an asset into a liability in the blink of an eye.

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    Do you own a business? Or are you the business?

    Let’s say you’re a financial advisor and run a small investment advisory firm. Your business is a success because of the relationships you built with clients over time – as well as intangible assets such as the licenses you have that allow you to run such a operation.

    Now you need a business valuation for divorce. But the value is based on your efforts, personal goodwill, and relationships.

    So what happens if:

    • You take all your clients with you, or
    • You’re the only person that brings in income, or
    • You’re the only one licensed to perform the service,

    What value does the business really have? Without you, maybe there is no business. And in turn, no value. This is what I call the “key man problem.”

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    Did you reinvest in the business in lieu of taking a salary?

    It’s not uncommon for the self-employed to invest everything they have into growing their business. And that might even include not taking a salary.

    Maybe you thought, “My spouse has a good job, so I’ll rely on him/her to pay the bills and cover us financially – and I’ll forego a salary and instead, reinvest any profits into my business.” So that’s what you did. And as a result, your business grew more quickly than it would have had you been taking a salary.

    Now there are a few problems:

    First, had you drawn a salary, there would have been less money available to reinvest. And as a result, the growth rate would have been slower. Leading to a lower valuation at the time of your divorce.

    Second, at the time of your divorce, because your business value would likely be inflated, you may have had to offer your soon-to-be ex more of your marital property / or other assets to come to an agreement you both found fair.

    Third, because you’ll no longer have your spouse to support you after you’re divorced, you’ll have to take a salary. Which leaves less cash flow available to reinvest into growing your operations.

    The best method to divide a business in a divorce isn’t the same for everyone.

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    Just as there are various methods to value one, there are also numerous options for how to divide one. And the option you choose is entirely dependent on your unique situation.

    You could sell it.

    On the surface, this might seem to be the easiest way to go. Whatever proceeds you receive from the sale you and your spouse could divide as you see fit. But selling your business can come with challenges.

    For example, what will you do to earn money after you sell? Especially if you include your intellectual property, as is common in non-service businesses.

    This will be important for not only covering your own living expenses but also if you are required to make child support or alimony payments as a result of your divorce.

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    You could continue to co-own it.

    Another way to “divide” a business may be to not divide it at all. If you and your spouse are getting a divorce when you own a business together, and you each play an active role in operating it, you may wish to leave things as-is.

    On the surface, this may seem like a good idea as it eliminates the need for a tangible property valuation at the time of your divorce. And removes this asset from your divorce negotiations. It also allows each of you to enjoy the “perks” of the family business, maintain your current salaries, and share in the net profits of the business.

    But… you’re getting a divorce owning a business together could be difficult, or impossible. Will you and your ex still be able to effectively communicate as both a divorcing couple and co-owners, and agree on a future direction for the company knowing that your financial and lifestyle goals may no longer be aligned?

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    You could buy out your spouse’s business interests.

    Buying your spouse out may seem simple enough – you would get to keep the intangible and tangible assets and they would get to keep other comparable tangible and intangible assets or marital property. But in order to provide a basis for the negotiation of the buyout amount, a valuation will be required. And it’s entirely possible that the amount could be higher than what you could actually sell it for on the open market.

    Since you are not selling the business on the open market, you really don’t (and won’t) know what the true sales price (and net proceeds) would be. But the problem is that your ex may now expect you to buy them out using the valuation amount. And given your experience in your profession, you may not think that value is realistic.

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    Determining what percentage of a private business are marital assets / marital property vs. separate assets / separate property can be difficult.

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    • Is the business a marital asset or a separate asset?
    • Did you start your business during the marriage or prior to the marriage?
    • If you started your business prior to the marriage, do you know what its value was at the time you got married? Did you have your business valued at that time?
    • Did you invest any marital funds into the business? Or was it all done separately, apart from the marital estate?
    • Did the business grow during the time you were married? Is that portion marital and therefore subject to division?

    Even if on the off chance you had a prenuptial agreement or postnuptial agreement in place outlining each spouse’s business interest in the event of a divorce, a good family lawyer could likely rip it to shreds.

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    Did you start the business, then after you got married, your spouse started working in it?

    Some couples decide to start a business after they get married, use marital funds to launch in it, and work in it together. In that case, there’s almost no question 100% of the business is considered marital property as both spouses contributed. But let’s say you started your business 5 years before you got married. Then, after 7 years of marriage, you decide your business has grown to the point where it could support another employee. So you say to your spouse, “Congratulations! You’re hired!” and they join the business full-time.

    After 4 years of working together, the pressure proves to be too much. Your spouse quits, asks for a divorce, and expects to get their fair share out of the business when it comes time to divide your property. The question now on the table is do you know what share of your business relationship is marital, pre-marital, or even non-marital (that is – the time only you worked in it even though you were married)?

    Is it based on:

    • The number of years each of you worked in the business?
    • The revenue the business generated?
    • The value you each provided to the operations and/or bottom line?
    • All of the above?

    If this is starting to sound like one of those math word problems that gave you nightmares in school, that’s because it is. And there’s no one size fits all answer to the question.

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    Or is your spouse an owner “in name only?”

    Some businesses assign an ownership interest to each spouse, with one spouse being an owner “in name only” (INO) – meaning they don’t work in the business on a day-to-day basis. What happens then?

    For example, in the case of a divorce and LLC business, does the non owner spouse get a share based on what is outlined in the membership agreement? Or what if your spouse has no ownership at all? Can they get a share of additional marital property or other assets then?

    What if they performed other tasks during the marriage such as childcare, or held down the fort at home while you were off building the business? Even if the you consider it an individual asset

    Without your spouse caring for the kids and/or managing the house, you may not have been able to grow your business into the successful entity it is today. So while they may not have worked directly on or in your business, they may certainly have had a hand in its success. And the question of whether or not it’s non marital property gets complicated.

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    Do you have a business partner?

    Business ownership isn’t just about sole proprietorship as some people choose to start a business with a partner or partners who are not their spouse. But the line between a professional relationship and personal one can get complicated.

    For example, in the case of a divorce and a limited liability company business, the membership agreement would define what share is yours, and what share belongs to your partner(s). As well as if there are any limitations in the buy sell agreement surrounding the sale of an ownership share of a business due to a divorce.

    Parenting time, child support, and alimony can all be impacted in a business divorce.

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    So far I’ve discussed many of the issues you and your divorcing spouse will face that are directly related to a divorce proceeding with a business involved. But in addition to the issues of valuations, buyouts, and who gets what share, other indirect issues arise in a business owner divorce process.

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    How do you handle parenting time?

    It’s no secret that an entrepreneur’s schedule can be erratic. Late-night customer emergencies. Early morning staffing issues. After-hours networking meetings. All of these happen outside of normal business hours.

    But how will you be able to commit to a parenting time schedule when your calendar can change at a minute’s notice?

    Your soon-to-be-ex may not be so accommodating of your last-minute emergencies and “Sorry, tell the kids I can’t make it” text messages. Not to mention, you really want to spend time with your kids.

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    Child support and alimony can be difficult to agree on

    One of the benefits of working for someone else (as an employee) is a steady paycheck. Both spouses know how much money is available to support the children, and both households, post-divorce. Which gives them a clear starting place in support negotiations. But if you own a business, issues surrounding alimony are far more complex.

    First, it’s not uncommon for business owners to forgo a salary for many years. Choosing instead to take money out of the business only when necessary. In turn, it making their earnings unpredictable and inconsistent. And second, even if you are paying yourself a salary, the amount you take is predicated on the success of your business operations. If things aren’t going well, you may be forced to take a cut in pay.

    But your children and your soon-to-be-ex spouses’ expenses are a constant. They’re counting on receiving a certain level of regular, monthly support. So, any variability in the amount they receive likely won’t work for them.

    Shifting the conversation in a more positive direction, if things in your business are going well, not only will you receive your salary, but you may be able to take money out of the business in the form of a bonus. Which couldn’t have been accounted for at the start of your company’s fiscal year. Do your children and ex-spouse get to share in that, too?

    And don’t forget, you’re likely able to run certain expenses through your business like:

    • Cell phone plans;
    • High-speed Internet;
    • Automobile expenses; and
    • Meals and entertainment

    Non-business owners pay these expenses out of their paychecks. So, in a way, your paycheck stretches farther than theirs would.

    While this may not be income in the traditional sense, how, if at all, do you account for it when it comes time to negotiate support?

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    Key takeaways

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    • Business valuation in divorce is complex, with multiple methods (cost, market, and income approaches) that can produce dramatically different results, potentially creating immediate conflict between spouses.
    • The “key man problem” can significantly impact business value, especially for service-based businesses where the owner’s personal relationships and skills are critical to the business’s success.
    • There are several options for dividing a business during divorce, including selling the business, continuing to co-own it, or one spouse buying out the other’s interests – each with unique challenges and considerations.
    • Determining marital vs. separate business assets is complicated, involving factors like when the business was started, how it grew during the marriage, and each spouse’s contributions (both direct and indirect).
    • Entrepreneurial schedules and inconsistent income can create significant challenges in determining child support, alimony, and parenting time arrangements.
    • Business owners who reinvest profits instead of taking a salary can face additional complexities during divorce, potentially inflating the business’s value and complicating asset division.
    • The unique nature of each business and divorce situation means there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to dividing business assets during a divorce.

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    The bottom line: to protect your business, mediation is often recommended over litigation, as court proceedings can be lengthy, expensive, and result in outcomes that neither spouse finds satisfactory.

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  • Divorce After 20 Years: Your Complete Guide to Protecting Your Children, Assets & Future

    Divorce After 20 Years: Your Complete Guide to Protecting Your Children, Assets & Future

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    When couples come to me seeking a divorce after 20 years, I’ve noticed there’s often this sense of calm acceptance between them. They’ve raised their kids, they’ve lived full lives together, and now they’re realizing they want different things for their future.

    It’s not that these divorces hurt any less – they absolutely do – but there’s usually this mutual understanding that as a couple, they’ve simply grown in different directions. Why is that? I believe it’s because as we hit our late 40s / early 50s, we suddenly realize life is too short to not be living it exactly as we want. So we look to make a significant change which comes in the form of ending our marriage.

    While these divorces tend to be more peaceful, they come with their own unique set of challenges that need careful navigation.

    So in this post, I’ll walk you through everything I’ve learned as a mediator about making this transition as smooth as possible, and share strategies that have helped the countless couples I’ve worked with who are divorcing after 20 years of marriage start their next chapters with confidence.

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    Before we begin – Why do people divorce after 20 years of marriage?

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    You would think that after sharing so much of their life together, a couple would stay committed until the end. But it’s not uncommon for one or both spouses to discover after spending two decades or more together, they’ve grown in different directions. And there’s a very real and common reason why this happens.

    You see, as children become more independent and couples find themselves with more free time, many people start to reconnect with themselves in ways they never expected. And find they no longer want what they currently have.

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    They seek personal growth

    Think about it – when was the last time you truly explored your own interests? Many husbands and wives spend their entire marriage taking care of their family, pursuing careers, and putting everyone else’s needs first. While setting aside their personal dreams and passions. Suddenly, with kids grown and responsibilities shifting, there’s space to ask yourself big questions like: Who am I now? What do I want from life? And where do I go from here?

    These moments of self-discovery can be both exciting and challenging, especially when they reveal that you and your spouse may have grown apart and there’s no longer an emotional connection. In cases like these, it’s not about infidelity, trust issues, or the failure of the other person to make you happy.

    Instead, it’s about hope and the courage to embrace your future goals so you can make you happy. And it’s on this journey that people discover new interests, make new friends, and realize they’re craving a different kind of relationship. One that truly reflects who they’ve become. And with someone other than their spouse.

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    The challenges of divorce after 20 years of marriage

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    Let’s now take a closer look at how divorcing after 20 years of marriage (or more) can impact the specific parental and financial issues you’ll face and what you can do to address them.

    Parental issues:

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    How your children will take the news of your divorce after 20 years

    Chances are good you have teenagers and deliberately waited until the kids were older thinking it was in their best interest. For the older couples I’ve worked with, this is the #1 reason why they waited get a divorce.

    As I’m sure you know, teenage years are unique in your child’s development. The focus of their life is no longer on the home and you their parents, but on their own new hobbies and interests, school, peers and independence. Making them very critical about your divorce – to put it mildly – with a common refrain being “how could you do this to me!?

    Hurt feelings aside (theirs and yours) you need to be prepared for this possible reaction so you can provide the necessary emotional support to help your kids cope with the divorce. Some people feel it’s helpful for kids to participate in both family therapy as well as individual counselling – despite them telling you “I’m fine!” – to help them manage their emotions and ease the transition.

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    Crafting your parenting plan

    Negotiating a set, repeating schedule and maintaining a united front as parents when divorcing after 20 years is critical to ensuring children’s well being. Despite their protests to the contrary, kids need routine and to understand boundaries. Having a parenting plan in place can offer both you and them a sense of calm and structure.

    Many of the parents I work with insist they don’t need a parenting plan; instead allowing their children to decide with whom they’ll live, and when they’ll visit the other parent. And while giving your kids some autonomy may seem like a good idea, the lack of structure can lead to issues between parents and children. As kids will choose either the parent they like better (creating a division between you and your now ex-husband or ex-wife) or the one that lets them get away with whatever they want!

    If you want to sit with them, talk to them, and ask them what kind of parenting time arrangement they’d like, that’s fine. But remember you are the adults and setting the schedule is up to you. In my experience a “one week on, one week off” schedule tends to work best for teenagers with a changeover on either Friday or Sunday night.

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    Financial issues:

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    What to do with your marital home (if you own one)

    Many parents of teenagers tell me “we want to keep the house for the sake of the children so we can minimize the upheaval the divorce will have on their family life and schoolwork.” Which makes perfect sense as chances are your kids are in high school, and have known the same group of friends for more than a decade.

    But since the house is typically the most significant marital asset a couple like you owns, it means you need to figure out how to financially support two separate households: with one of you staying in the marital home while the other finds another place to live. Unless, of course, you decide to both remain in the marital home for some time after your divorce. And that comes with other challenges.

    One possibility parents are considering to achieve this goal – and it’s something we’re seeing more these days given the cost of housing and interest rates – are nesting plans. But to see if it’s even a possibility, you’ll need to create a budget that captures the expenses of keeping the marital home and possibly renting a second residence. If you need some help doing so, check out our pre-divorce financial preparation kit.

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    The complexity of child support for teenagers

    For couples divorcing after 20 years, child support can get complicated when children approach college age. Most state guidelines adjust support based on the number of children, meaning support will likely decrease as each of your kids leaves home. But unless you’ve got one of those kids who never comes home on holidays or summer break, most college students I know spend up to 22 weeks a year at home. And while they’re there, still incur expenses that don’t disappear when child support changes.

    One strategy I suggest to my client couples is to consider a reduced amount of child support for their college aged child(ren) to ensure their needs continue to be met regardless of whether they’re living at home, or have left home and are living on campus.

    And if your kids are still in high school? Since teenagers expenses are far greater than younger children, that will require some careful planning too. One approach I use to address this for couples with teenagers is to negotiate a higher than guideline recommended child support amount to ensure their kids expenses are adequately covered. Unless your state like New Jersey’s child support guideline already factors that in.

    As you’re learning, in cases of a long marriage like yours, child support conversations require far more thought and care than just running a guideline calculator and accepting the output.

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    Changes to how the length of alimony / spousal support is determined

    In the past, it was common for couples divorcing after 20 years of marriage, to have an alimony agreement that required one partner to pay their former partner in perpetuity (aka permanent alimony.) But these days that’s typically no longer the case.

    For example, alimony reform in New Jersey included a provision that for marriages that last 20 years or less, the length of alimony payments cannot exceed the length of the marriage unless a judge decides that there are exceptional circumstances. So in the past, a former spouse who got divorced after a 20 years marriage might have been eligible to receive permanent alimony. But today, there are no guarantees.

    To help my client couples negotiate this thorny issue, I approach this from a variety of angles. Factoring in things like each party’s needs, age, ability to earn an income, where will the children be living, and even what their Social Security earnings or property division agreement looks like to help them determine duration.

    Unfortunately, unlike child support where each state is required to have a guideline, there are no such requirements for alimony. How it works and how it’s determined isn’t always clear, and is subject to negotiation. Which as you’ll learn later in this post is why it’s so important to mediate your divorce.

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    The challenges of divorce after 25 years

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    Similar to a 20 year divorce, divorce after 25 years, will center around issues related to children and finances. But a lot can happen in those additional 5+ years. Chances greatly increase that most (if not all) children are in college, and some may have even graduated.

    Here are some issues the couples I work with encounter in a divorce after 25 years of marriage and strategies I’ve used to help address them.

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    Parental issues:

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    How your children will take the news of your divorce after 25 years

    It’s a common misconception that older children take the news of their parents divorce better than young children. When in fact, the opposite is true. And if you’re getting in a divorce after 25 years, there is an excellent chance your children are no longer minors but older “adults.”

    On one hand you might be tempted to think “oh well, they’re adults. They’ll get used to it.” But that can be a big mistake. Despite their insistence they’re adults, no matter how old they are, they are still your children. And will want to be treated as such. Confusing, I know…

    In cases like yours, family therapy can allow all of you to discuss the life changes you’ll all be experiencing in a caring and supportive environment. By including them in the conversation you’re acknowledging their standing as adults, but can also openly express to them as their parents, how much you care for them, and want to make sure they’re OK.

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    Dealing with “slow to launch” children

    Many children leaving home these days face significant challenges to independence, including high student loan debt and the rising cost of living. Over my decades of mediating, I’ve noticed it’s become increasingly common for young adults to return home after completing their education. This trend, often referred to as “boomeranging,” presents a real challenge for divorcing parents.

    While you may not need a formal parenting plan for your adult children, some of the people I work with feel it’s important to consider the possibility their children might return home, and to plan what financial support each parent will provide as their children try to establish themselves. In mediation, we negotiate what I call “support of your children.”

    Rather than using state guidelines to determine child support (as you would with minor children), we create a budget-based approach. This helps determine what costs need to be covered if you have a boomeranging child, and whether it makes sense to keep the house until you know where they’ll end up. This way, if your college graduate decides to live with one of you in the future, that parent won’t be solely responsible for providing financial support or finding space for them in that parent’s new residence.

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    Financial issues:

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    The decision to keep or sell the marital home becomes even more difficult

    As we discussed there is the distinct possibility of children “boomeranging” back home once they’ve graduated college. In a divorce after 25 years, it’s extremely likely at least one of your two or three children is in college, and one (or more) may have even graduated.

    If you’re facing divorce as an empty nester, you’ll need to ask yourself how important it is for your kids to return to the house they grew up in on holidays and school breaks. Or if it’s ok to sell the house now since the kids are primarily living at school for most of the year. And if they have boomeranged, where can they / you go if you decide to sell it?

    Because your children are no longer minors, they may want to have a say in your decision. So don’t be afraid to include them but once again, you’re the adults and need to have the final say. Working through if this is even possible starts with a solid budget, so before you even discuss this complex issue, make sure to “do the math” to see if it’s even possible.

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    Buying out the marital home gets even harder

    When divorcing after 25 years of marriage, there’s a good chance your house is fully or almost paid off. Meaning one of you is going to have to procure a hefty mortgage to buy the other party out or you’ll each walk away with a nice sum to put down on a place of your own after the divorce process is finished. In both of these cases, if you’re the spouse who worked inside the home raising children, getting approved for a mortgage without an income history is going to be tough. So regardless of whether or not you want to buy your spouse out of the marital home, or prefer to buy a place of your own, doing so may prove challenging.

    Two options I help couples consider are delaying the sale of the home until retirement and exchanging the equity in the home for some other asset. In both of these cases, if you’re the spouse who wants to remain, you can do so without having to uproot yourself immediately after your divorce. But be careful to not only consider the financial implications, but the tactical ones as well. Homes require maintenance and upkeep so ask yourself if you really want to be cutting that grass or dealing with a leaky water heater by yourself once your divorce is final.

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    Alimony / spousal support and the 25 year marriage

    If your role was to “work inside the home” and raise your children, chances are you’ve been out of the workforce for many years. And even if you got a job when your kids graduated high school just to keep yourself busy, it’s unlikely the money is enough to support yourself on what you take home.

    Many states are allowing alimony to end upon the retirement of the paying spouse (usually age 67). That means even when divorcing after 25 years, you might only be receiving alimony for a few years which may not be enough time for you to get back on your feet and establish your own separate life.

    To help with this, there are two things you can consider. First is something I call rehabilitative alimony. It’s alimony paid in addition to periodic payments that allows the receiving spouse to return to college or receive additional training to improve their future financial potential. And the second is receiving an additional share of property division in exchange for a shorter duration of alimony. Both of these options are things I explore with client couples who find themselves in this situation. So with some careful planning, and the guidance of a negotiation professional like me, perhaps it may be worth exploring.

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    Paying for college as a form of child support

    Another interesting development is in the area of who pays for college when parents divorce after 25 years. Couples are often surprised to find out that if they remain married, they’d have no formal obligation to pay for their children’s college education. Even though they may choose to do so on their own. But when they get divorced after 25 years, in some states like Illinois and New Jersey, they may be required to contribute to college.

    Be sure to come to terms on what each of your contributions to college will be (if any) and what marital assets you may use to satisfy those obligations. As I’d hate for you to both wind up like me and my parents did, litigating this issue in court. Formalizing these agreements in writing and setting aside the funds can help you avoid arguments down the road, and stay out of court.

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    Remember: life is short so keep the divorce process peaceful

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    After twenty years of marriage, you’ve built a lifetime of memories together. While your paths are now diverging, those years weren’t wasted – they were part of both your journeys, filled with shared experiences that helped shape who you are today.

    Love takes many forms, and sometimes the most loving choice is recognizing when it’s time to walk separate paths. This doesn’t diminish the relationship you’ve had or the care you still have for each other. People grow and change over time, and that’s not only natural – it’s part of being human.

    Choosing an amicable divorce through mediation honors both your shared past and your individual futures. It allows you to preserve the dignity of your relationship while opening the door to new possibilities. By working together one final time, you can:

    • Protect the precious memories you’ve created together
    • Save valuable time and financial resources for your next chapter
    • Begin your healing process sooner rather than later
    • Maintain mutual respect and understanding

    Being closer to retirement means protecting your financial future is more important than ever. Mediation helps you avoid costly, drawn-out legal battles that drain both your emotional and financial resources. Instead, you can work together to create a thoughtful transition that respects both your needs.

    When you choose mediation, you’re saying, “Our time together mattered, and how we end this chapter matters too.” It’s about acknowledging that while your love has transformed, your ability to treat each other with kindness and respect remains unchanged. This approach creates space for both of you to move forward with hope, dignity, and the excitement of discovering what your next chapter holds.

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    Key takeaways

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    • Personal growth is often the primary reason couples divorce after long marriages, as individuals rediscover themselves when children become more independent.
    • Teenage and adult children can have complex emotional reactions to parental divorce, making family therapy and open communication crucial.
    • Financial considerations are intricate, including decisions about the marital home, child support for teenagers and college-aged children, and potential alimony limitations.
    • Many states now limit alimony duration, even for marriages lasting 20-25 years, which can create financial challenges for the spouse who was primarily a homemaker.
    • “Boomerang” children (young adults returning home after college) add complexity to divorce negotiations about housing and living arrangements.
    • Some states may require divorced parents to contribute to college expenses, which differs from obligations during marriage.
    • Creating a structured parenting plan remains important, even with older children, to minimize potential conflicts and provide stability.
    • Career counseling or returning to college can be valuable strategies for the spouse seeking to re-enter the workforce after a long marriage.

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  • Empty Nest Divorce: a Guide to Divorce After Kids Leave Home

    Empty Nest Divorce: a Guide to Divorce After Kids Leave Home

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    Empty nest divorce occurs when couples find themselves facing marital challenges after their children leave home. When they realize their primary connection was centered on raising children, underlying problems can no longer be overlooked, and result in divorce.

    Many empty nesters I work with have been married about 20 years – which is a common milestone at which to divorce. In fact, the divorce rate for those married 20 years or more is nearly 3x the national average and the makeup of our client couples reflect that.

    In my experience, empty nest divorce is a combination of a desire for a change as these spouses reach middle age, combined with two people realizing their children were the only thing keeping them together.

    With so much at stake, I want to share with you in this article:

    • What is empty nest syndrome;
    • Surprising statistics on the exploding empty nest divorce rate;
    • 10 reasons why couples separate when they become empty nesters;
    • 3 critical challenges you and your spouse need to be aware of and make a plan for;
    • And how smart couples successfully navigate the significant challenges of this major change, and transition to their new life.

    Ready to jump in?

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    What is Empty Nest Syndrome and how does it lead to divorce?

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    Empty nest syndrome as defined by the Mayo Clinic, is a complex emotional experience where parents grapple with feelings of grief, loneliness, and loss during the phase when their last child moves out.

    Despite these feelings of loneliness, some couples see this phase as an opportunity to set new goals for their relationship, finally take that trip they’ve always dreamed about, or explore new interests and hobbies together. These couples view the empty nest as a chance to live life and reconnect.

    But for other couples, without the daily demands of raising children to distract them, they realize they’ve grown apart. And no matter what, all they can do is focus on their communication breakdowns and lack of shared hopes and dreams. With empty nest syndrome the final confirmation that their paths have permanently diverged.

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    Empty nest divorce rate statistics

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    According to a study published in the Journal of Marriage and Family, couples are 40% more likely to divorce after their children leave home. This phenomenon is often referred to as the “empty nest divorce” trend.

    The Pew Research Center reported that rates for adults 50 and older ending their marriages have roughly doubled since the 1990s. While this isn’t exclusively about empty nesters, it significantly overlaps with couples whose children have moved out.

    And finally, a National Center for Health Statistics analysis found that approximately 2 in 4 divorces (50%) now occur among couples over 50, with many of these happening after children have left home.

    As you can see, if you’re facing an empty nest divorce, you’re not alone.

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    Why do couples divorce when they are empty nesters?

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    It would appear to me since the pressures of raising children have been lifted, there’d be more time to connect with your partner, find new hobbies and interests, and enjoy life together instead of calling it quits. But while that may seem to be the case, there is often far more going on in the relationship, or with the individual person, than meets the eye.

    Sometimes the reason has to do with the collective actions of, or dynamic between, spouses. In these cases, both parties actively or passively played a role in the failed marriage. While other times it’s the behavior or experience of an individual that impacts the relationship and drives the decision to divorce once the nest is empty.

    Here are the 10 most common reasons we see for empty nesters to divorce.

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    10 Reasons couples pursue divorce when they have an empty nest after raising children:

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    1. An unstable marital foundation:

    While we think an empty nest divorce is triggered by the last minor child heading off to college and leaving the marital home, the reality is the marriage may have been in trouble long before that. Was it a common goal to have kids? Or did one of you desperately want children while the other felt your marriage and relationship was great as-is? And if you had children early in your marriage, did you have time to get to know each other before the chaos of parenting kicked in?

    Conflicts regarding the decision to have a family, and the timing of the birth of those children, can create cracks early in the marital foundation. These cracks may go undetected for many years until the youngest leaves home.

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    2. Too many years of marital neglect:

    Life is definitely more hectic than it was for those of us who grew up in the 70s and 80s, and all that running around can take a toll. Throughout your marriage, did you regularly stay connected and spend time together without the kids? Going on dates, couples vacations, and doing activities – just the two of you? Or was it all kids, all the time, with your focus solely on their interests and priorities?

    Spending time scurrying from place to place can cause a slow and consistent decline in a marriage – the kind of communication breakdowns which go unnoticed until the nest is empty.

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    3. Staying together for the kids:

    Kids are often what tethers a couple together. Even after kids leave, no matter if they have underlying issues with each other, the parents may go to marriage counseling to try to make things work for the sake of their kids. Or worse, ignore their problems to not disrupt their younger children’s life with their parents’ divorce.

    Unfortunately, those problems never go away. And giving up on a marriage without ending it can compound the sadness and marital friction that already exists.

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    4. Differing attitudes about the empty nest:

    Do you both view your newfound independence with a sense of joy and hope? Excited for the opportunity to create new shared goals, re-focus priorities, and pursue those interests you always talked about? Or is one of you planning that exotic vacation you always talked about, while the other sits on your child’s bed, sulking until they come home for winter break, and spring break, and…

    Differing attitudes about the empty nest syndrome and prospects for the couple’s next chapter in life, combined with the bereaved spouse feeling like there is a lack of emotional support from their husband and/or wife, can contribute to marital dissatisfaction.

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    5. Not letting go:

    It’s a fact of life that children grow up, and letting them go can be a struggle – especially when they’re so far from home.

    But if one of you feels at ease, knowing you raised your kids to be responsible and independent young adults, while the other still feels the need to check up on their every move, this conflict of values can drive a wedge between spouses.

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    6. Loss of identity:

    When some couples decide to have a family, they agree that one will continue their career, while the other will stay home and raise the kids.

    Each spouse plays an important role in the growth and success of the family unit. And oftentimes, each individual’s identity and sense of purpose is tied directly to their “job.” One whose focus is the primary breadwinner and the other as the primary caregiver.

    But when the day comes that the youngest goes off to college, things change significantly for the parent whose primary role it was to raise the children. For the breadwinner, the meetings, conference calls, and work trips continue, with no major changes to their routine. But for the stay-at-home mom or dad, life as they know it has come to an end. Leaving them with a serious sadness, loss of identity, and a tremendous void in their life.

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    Youth and happiness is the fuel that keeps their engines running, and the tank is always full! But in mid-life, age-related changes may make the needle feel like it’s on empty. For men, a drop in testosterone can impact everything from energy level to sex drive, and for women, menopause and related hormonal changes can do the same.

    For some couples, one partner may struggle with the impacts of age-related changes to a larger degree than the other. And those changes in physical health and desire can contribute to friction in the marriage.

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    8. Loss of employment:

    There’s a saying that goes, “A life well-lived is a life lived with purpose,” and for some, that purpose is their work. But if that sense of self and purpose is taken away involuntarily through a lay-off or forced retirement, it can alter an individual’s sense of self, and irreparably alter communication and the relationship dynamic in a negative way. Since these types of “downsizing” events typically affect workers in their mid to late-50s, chances are that individual has (or is about to have) an empty nest.

    With no job to go to, and no children at home to attend to, a spouse can lose their sense of purpose in the marriage, which can lead to depression, and/or divorce.

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    9. Conflict over continuing caregiving responsibilities:

    You and your spouse knew that by having children, you would be spending 18 years of your marriage raising your kids. You also believed that once the kids were grown, you could finally have the freedom to travel the world, live life, and do all the things you dreamt about doing as a couple. But many children are boomeranging back for financial reasons – or are unable to fully leave the nest in the first place.

    Humans are also living longer these days. In fact, since 1950, there has been a significant uptick in life expectancy in developed nations – increasing from an average of around 65 years to nearly 80 years today. As a result, more and more middle-aged couples are finding themselves in the sandwich generation – financially and emotionally supporting elderly parents, and their adult children – indefinitely.

    When this happens, one spouse may be bitter that this situation is preventing them from living their shared goals and dreams, and project that resentment onto their partner (especially if the elderly parents in question are their in-laws!)

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    10. Too much time on their/my hands:

    While many of the parents we talk to enjoy the track meets, parent-teacher conferences, and friendships they’ve developed with the parents of their children’s friends – at their core they know something is missing in their marital relationship, but they’re just too busy to focus on it. Once the kids are grown and their parenting work is completed, the level of parental activity subsides, many couples find those social ties are broken, and wind up with a lot of extra time on their hands.

    Time to come to the realization they haven’t truly been happily married for many years.

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    3 Critical empty nest divorce challenges:

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    Challenge #1: The nest may not remain empty

    Let’s say your child’s university offers classes in two, 15-week semesters. Since there are 52 weeks in a year, and kids are only in school for 30 of them, your college scholar(s) are going to need a home to return to. Add to the mix that these days kids tend to boomerang back home – even after graduation, and suddenly the decision to keep or sell the house can take on an outsized significance.

    But how will you know if keeping or selling the former marital residence is the right way to go? And if you decide to keep it, who will live there?

    And how can the two of you afford to make that happen since two homes are more expensive to run than one and the other person also needs a fair amount of money to secure their own place to live?

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    Challenge #2: With great reward comes great risk

    As an empty nester, chances are you’re in your mid-50s and have been married for at least 20 years.

    If you worked outside the home throughout the marriage, you’re most likely in your peak earning years as an employee or business owner. And while your earnings are perhaps the highest they’ve ever been, your risk of being replaced by someone younger and cheaper is also at an all-time high! Not to mention, you’re closer to retiring than you were in your 20s, 30s, or 40s…

    On the other hand, if you worked inside the home throughout the marriage, it’s most likely too late to catch up to your soon-to-be ex-husband’s or wife’s earnings. And since you’ll be extremely reliant on alimony, you also have a lot at stake if your ex loses their job due to ageism. So you’re both in a precarious position!

    But you’re getting a divorce now, and need to make decisions based on your current financial situation. How do you account for the future should something change? And given the duration of your marriage, if alimony is applicable, chances are the duration will be more than a year or two and may even stretch past normal retirement age. How do you handle that?

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    Challenge #3: You’re wealthy “on paper”

    If you’re an empty nester who owns a home and/or has been investing in your 401k for the past 30 years, chances are your financial picture is looking pretty solid. On paper.

    Rising stock markets and housing markets have a way of making us feel wealthy. But since a house isn’t liquid until you sell it, and you’re not yet 59 and the all-important “half,” you don’t have assets you can tap into right away. Leaving each of you with a substantial need for cash. But what if you don’t want to sell the house right away in case the kids want to come back home on break or after they graduate? What are you going to do then?

    Sure, there may be some form of support paid from one party to the other, but the pool of income will remain the same – even though two households are more expensive to run than one.

    What do you both do to make sure you can each live within your means, while not making any financial moves that will result in unintended tax consequences or penalties?

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    How do smart couples successfully navigate the significant challenges of an empty nest divorce?

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    These subjects only scratch the surface. Because there are many other critical issues surrounding a divorce after 20 years of marriage as well as gray divorce. But hopefully, you can see how issues facing older couples in longer-term marriages are a lot more complex than those of younger couples married for a shorter duration.

    That’s why we believe the right choice is to work with an expert divorce mediator.

    Between paying for your kids’ college education and retirement being closer than you’d like to admit, you want to work together to ensure you each have the resources you need to move on with the next, new chapter, in your soon-to-be separate lives. Does this sound like you?

    If so, don’t leave your future in the hands of family law attorneys and waste up to $200,000 and 3 years of your life arguing as enemies, only to be forced to accept an agreement imposed on you by a family law judge and that neither of you finds fair.

    Instead, choose to mediate and preserve your time and money while working cooperatively as adults to reach an agreement that’s fair, thorough, and resolves both current and known/potential future issues as circumstances change.

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    Key takeaways

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    • Empty nest divorce is a significant phenomenon, with couples 40% more likely to divorce after their children leave home.
    • Many couples realize they’ve grown apart when the daily demands of parenting no longer mask underlying marital issues.
    • Reasons for empty nest divorce include prolonged marital neglect, staying together solely for children, and differing attitudes about the next life stage.
    • Loss of identity, particularly for stay-at-home parents, can be a critical factor in triggering divorce during this transition.
    • Biological changes, job loss, and continuing caregiving responsibilities can create unexpected stress on marriages.
    • Financial challenges are complex for older couples divorcing, including considerations about housing, alimony, and retirement planning.
    • The “sandwich generation” faces unique pressures, often simultaneously supporting adult children and elderly parents.
    • Working with a divorce mediator can help couples navigate this challenging transition more cooperatively and cost-effectively.

    While an empty nest divorce can be challenging, it also presents an opportunity for personal growth, renewed self-discovery, and the potential to create more authentic, fulfilling lives for both partners.

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    Take your first step towards a peaceful
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  • Podcast: Going Solo – Life After Relationship Loss

    Podcast: Going Solo – Life After Relationship Loss

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    In this episode of “Going Solo: Life After Relationship Loss,” I join host Cece Shatz to discuss how divorce mediation can smooth the transition from married to single life. I answer frequently asked questions about the mediation process and explain how choosing mediation can resolve your divorce in just 2-3 months compared to 2-3 years of litigation. And we explore how engaging in a more peaceful divorce process helps minimize both emotional and financial damage to you and your family.

    This conversation provides practical insights for anyone seeking a less adversarial path through divorce while protecting their well-being and resources during this major life transition.

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    Going Solo Interview Transcript: Joe Dillon on Divorce Mediation

    Host: Cece Schatz, Going Solo Network
    Guest: Joe Dillon, Equitable Mediation Service


    Cece: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Going Solo, Life After Relationship Loss. I’m your host, Cece Schatz. Today we have a really great show about mediation for those going through divorce and trying to figure out an easier way than arguing and fighting to make your family life miserable.

    We have the expert here today – Joe Dillon. Joe, you’re a pioneer in divorce mediation. You’ve been helping couples navigate through the end of marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years. You’re the co-founder of Equitable Mediation Service, and you combine your MBA in finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern University. Tell us why you decided that mediation was so important that you were going to devote your life to it.

    Joe: That’s a great question. My parents litigated their divorce, so I’m a child of a litigated divorce. My high school years were consumed by my parents’ divorce – sitting in waiting rooms at my mom’s lawyer’s office, sitting in the back of courtrooms or in hallways at the county courthouse. That’s not really how you want to spend your life.

    Their divorce was so terrible that they fought and fought. It took years to unfold and my mom never recovered. She was about 45, and then she never dated, never made any friends, really didn’t rebuild her life. My dad was so angry at the settlement that he stopped talking to me and my mom. The last time I saw him, I was 15 years old in the lobby of a courthouse where they had been arguing over who was going to pay for me to go to college. In 2019, I got a letter in the mail that said he died.

    That story really imprinted on me – there is a right way and a wrong way to do this. I wish everybody could mediate. Not everyone can, but you’d be surprised. If you act like an adult, put your kids first, and really focus on the damage it’s going to do to you both financially and emotionally, then you can mediate.

    Cece: Thank you for sharing that. Parents need to know that because when they’re in the midst of divorce and fighting about their futures, sometimes they forget about their children’s futures too. It’s not just about the dollar signs – it’s also about the mental part, and that can affect kids as they continue on.

    Now here in Florida, we have mediation built into the process, but people don’t take advantage of it. Let’s talk about how people can really use that mediation time when they’ve already gotten an attorney and filed their paperwork.

    Joe: There’s court-appointed mediation that varies from state to state, but you can always go to private mediation. I’m a private mediator – I don’t work through the court system. A good lawyer is going to say, “Let’s try mediation first. What’s the worst that can happen? It’s non-binding. We don’t come to an agreement, you don’t have to stick to it. Then we can go the legal route.”

    One thing people don’t know – statistically, 2% of all divorce cases get in front of a judge. The judges don’t want to see you. They’re busy with other things. They don’t want to listen to you about the toaster or holiday disputes.

    But even before you get into that process, you can work with a private mediator. You can search for “divorce mediator near me” and find somebody like myself who will mediate before you even retain an attorney. When you’re done with us, you can have an attorney review everything and go through the formal process.

    The advantage is you’re off the clock. When you file papers and get court-ordered mediation, you’ve got a court date with pressure to settle by a certain day. These are big decisions, especially for folks in their 50s and 60s who’ve been married a long time with a lot to unwind. If you go to a private mediator, you control the clock and can enter the court system when you’re ready.

    Cece: I totally agree. Why not take control of that? If you can do it beforehand with a private mediator, you can sit down and figure out what you truly want and where you envision your life to be in the future. A mediator will help you do that.

    So what’s the first thing someone should do? How do they get their partner on board with mediation?

    Joe: First, understand that mediation is a voluntary process – both parties have to be willing. You can’t convince someone to mediate if they don’t want to. The first step is getting your spouse on board.

    On our website, we have a guide on the five options for divorce – by far our most popular resource. It covers the pros and cons of each option, what you need to do and understand. By reviewing that, maybe with your spouse, you can say, “This is the option that sounds best for us.”

    As a neutral third party, I emphasize that I don’t represent either person – I advocate for both of you. I want a solution that’s best for the collective, your kids, your family, and your future. By having a meeting with both spouses and me, I can help set that tone.

    Often one person finds us first, and the other person thinks, “That’s your mediator.” I clarify – I am not your mediator, I am our mediator. Getting that buy-in from a spouse by having them feel part of the decision is key.

    Cece: Let’s talk about cost. The difference between mediation and going the argumentative route with attorneys is significant, right?

    Joe: Absolutely. As we say to clients, it takes two people to be married, but only one to get a divorce. Whether or not you want that divorce, it will happen. It’s simply a function of how much time, money, and emotional capital you want to spend. You can either do it the easier way and start building your new life, or fight and pay a lot of money and still wind up in the same spot – except instead of two to three months, it’ll be two to three years with an empty bank account.

    Cece: Sometimes people spend a lot of time arguing over something that may not be essential – like candlesticks. How do you handle issues that seem mundane but aren’t mundane to the person?

    Joe: When I was taking training at Harvard, I learned about the book “Getting to Yes” – a classic on negotiation. One key principle is looking for the reason behind the reason. With the candlesticks example, it’s not about the object. There’s some hidden reason this person is negotiating this way.

    A good mediator won’t keep going at the candlesticks directly – they’ll circle around to see what’s under the hood. Usually, you’ll find out it’s not about the candlesticks at all. It might be, “I had to walk the dog more when we were married” – something completely disconnected from the item at hand.

    When you get to that “aha moment,” it pops the balloon and lets all the air out of the argument. Once you find that underlying issue and address it, the rest of the conversation flows because you’ve made a breakthrough.

    Cece: This is the beauty of mediation – it allows people to slow down, take a breath, and get to the bottom of what’s bothering them. Let’s talk about what all a mediator can do, because I want people to know there’s a vast amount of things you can help with.

    Joe: There’s a real misconception out there. People ask, “You mean you can help us come to agreements on child support?” Of course! All the issues required to get a divorce – property division, alimony, parenting plans, child support – a good mediator can help you resolve.

    Because of my background in finance, I take an analytical approach. When I help people craft an agreement, I want it to be realistic, executable, and something they won’t look back on 12 or 24 months later and think is terrible or unfair.

    A good mediator guides you through what lawyers call the discovery process – exchanging all information. We’ll frame out all the issues, negotiate through what we call the four big brackets: parenting, child support, alimony, and property division.

    But mediation really shines when dealing with other issues the courts don’t handle. For example, I’m a proud pet parent, and the courts don’t have pet parenting plans. But a mediator can help you craft a pet parenting plan and pet support agreement.

    The result is what’s known as a memorandum of understanding – a detailed document with all the language you agree to that becomes your roadmap for moving forward.

    Cece: That’s great advice. I love that you can have someone else review it, and if issues come up later, you can go back to the mediator. The reality is you get control of your life – you and your partner are in the driver’s seat.

    Joe: Exactly. Let’s just talk about what you want to do, what your goals are. People forget that in family court, it’s a court of equity, not law. Equity means fair, but not necessarily equal. It’s what you both think is fair, and that might not be 50-50.

    If you enter the court system, a judge might think something is fair for you, but you might not agree. In mediation, you decide what you think is fair and take that to the courts saying, “This is what we want.”

    There’s no magic rulebook. Sure, there are guidelines, but if you read the statutes, there’s no formula. It’s all conversation and negotiation, which is what we do in mediation.

    Cece: So wherever you live, in any state, there are mediators available. Do your homework, find one you think will work for you, and see if this is the route you want to go to have control of what you’re going to do.

    Joe is in California. If you’re in that area, reach out to him at equitablemediation.com or email jdillon@equitablemediation.com. Any last words for our audience?

    Joe: The sooner you get through your divorce, the sooner you can rebuild your life. I don’t know how many years any of us have on this planet, and I wish very healthy, long lives for everyone listening today. But why waste them in a courtroom? Why waste them being angry and fighting? Just get through the process, rebuild your life, and move forward.

    Cece: That’s great advice. Remember, you can use a mediator not only during your divorce but also after. If you find yourself in a situation where you need to work out another agreement or revamp something as your family grows and moves forward in life, get a mediator and sit down to figure out what needs to be changed.

    Thank you for being with us on Going Solo, Life After Relationship Loss. This is Cece Schatz reminding you that the next chapter of your life is not yet written.

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  • Podcast: Don’t Let Your Divorce Become a Disaster

    Podcast: Don’t Let Your Divorce Become a Disaster

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    In this episode of “Lawyers & Mediators International,” I join host Mac-Arthur Pierre-Louis to discuss my unique approach to divorce mediation in “Don’t Let Your Divorce Become a Disaster.” I share my personal backstory about how my parents’ contentious divorce shaped my commitment to protecting children from high-conflict situations. And explain my philosophy of “looking through the windshield, not the rearview mirror,” focusing on future solutions rather than past grievances.

    The conversation covers our 98% settlement rate, the role of divorce coaching, and our early adoption of virtual mediation technology that now serves clients across multiple states.

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    Don’t Let Your Divorce Become a Disaster

    A Conversation with Joe Dillon of Equitable Mediation

    Mac: Welcome to the Lawyers and Mediators International Show and podcast, where we discuss law and conflict resolution topics to educate both professionals and everyday people. Catch regular episodes on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast. Just remember, nothing in these episodes constitutes legal advice, so be sure to talk to a lawyer as cases are fact dependent.

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Lawyers and Mediators International, where we talk about the law and conflict resolutions to educate the public, professionals, and everyday people. Welcome back, and in this episode I have guest Joe Dylan. He’s a mediator who’s going to be talking to us today about conflict, especially when it comes to divorces—divorces with kids, without kids. So Joe, how are you doing today?

    Joe: Doing well, thanks Mac. Thanks for having me.

    Mac: Well, thank you so much for coming on. I’ll be sharing your website while we talk, as we always like to do. As we start off these things, we want to get to know you, so why don’t you just spend a couple minutes to share yourself to the public, to the audience. But don’t share too much because I know you have quite an interesting backstory I’d like to get into a little bit, because that backstory really gives you the passion as to why you do this work? But yeah, tell us who you are in just the basic details.

    Joe: Certainly. So I’m a mediator. I’ve been mediating for 28 years, been in private practice in divorce for 17. I have an MBA in finance, so that’s interesting when it comes to divorce. Because other than parenting plans, you’ve got child support, alimony, property division—they’re really financial matters when you think about it. I use that background to really help parties understand what’s fair and equitable, and I know we’re going to spend some time today talking about that as a concept, because fair and equitable—those are loaded words? They all mean different things to different people. But I try to bring that analytical bent along with some personal experience, which we’ll explore in a bit, to the table, because I know of what I speak.

    That’s me in a nutshell. As I go through my career and I do this, a lot of satisfaction comes from it because you can really help people avoid court, avoid drama, and as you’ll learn a little bit about my story, I have experienced that firsthand.

    Mac: Yes, well, similar to you, I do a lot of mediation work and I touch a lot of divorce cases, and so we both know they can become very hectic, emotionally stressful. I liken people doing their own divorce to going to the dentist and doing your own dental work—not a wise idea? It can be very painful. So you want expert help, and sometimes those experts are lawyers, but sometimes—and especially in Texas where I’m based—we’re required to go see mediators before we go see a judge. So often times those experts are mediators like yourself who can help.

    So let’s talk about your backstory. You are, as you’ve described in your own biography online and you’ve discussed it elsewhere because I’ve seen you everywhere on different podcasts, and you’re going around quite a bit to share your story. But tell us about your childhood and what happened and what you experienced, because you went through—your parents went through a divorce and it impacted how you came to see relationships. I’ll let you tell the story, but go ahead.

    Joe: Absolutely. So I grew up a classic suburban kid in New Jersey—I’m originally from New Jersey—and my parents litigated their divorce. Now this was back in the ’80s, really mediation was kind of a glimmer in the eye of some places? It really hadn’t become mainstream. And they really just fought and fought and fought, and it really dragged on through my high school years? So it was really, when you’re a kid and you’re supposed to be out and playing sports and working your after-school job and with your friends, a lot of it was just waiting for some letter from a lawyer in the mailbox or some drama or sitting in the waiting room of an attorney’s office because my mom had an appointment or sitting in the back of a courtroom. So that’s not an ideal way for a kid to spend their time?

    And there were some really powerful messages. One of them I will never forget—and in fact I will remember to this day—his name was Judge Friend, I kid you not. And my mom was sitting there in our living room one day, she’s just crying, she’s upset, she’s like, “Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I hope we get a good judge.” And I was a teenager, so I knew enough to ask like, “What does that mean?” ? And as you know, in your line of work, because you and I are child support evangelists, if you will—so that’s what I appreciate about you—she said, “Yeah, I’ve heard that he likes kids and that if we get him as our judge, we’ll get good child support.”

    Now, as professionals, if you and I sit here, we’re like, “What? You have to hope you get a judge who likes kids so that you can have money?” So thankfully a lot of that’s evolved, with the child support acts and guidelines that have come out.

    So that was one thing, and then the other part of the puzzle was they were so busy fighting that I was an only child? So I just had myself, I was to my own devices, and they were so mad with each other—and specifically my dad with my mom—that after I saw him in court, this was I was probably 15, 16 somewhere in there. The last time I saw him in court was in the waiting room of the courthouse, like out in the lobby, and then they were just arguing over who was going to pay for college for me to go to college, and that was the big argument. Screaming and yelling, my dad was literally restrained because he was going to go after the judge because the judge kept making him pay more and more because he was getting angrier and angrier. And so finally, that was it. And that was the last I saw or heard from my father.

    Then in 2019, I got a letter that said he died. And so from age 15 until at the time I guess I was about 50—that was it. I never saw him, heard from him, knew where he was, and it was really all because of that litigated divorce.

    So when I get into session, people have most likely read that about me, and it’s not just platitudes, it’s not just words when I say, “Listen, you two, I know exactly what’s going to happen to you and your kids if you don’t figure it out here.” And so that’s the story I bring, and it’s not a story—it’s my life? And that’s the bent I bring into the room, and I believe people resonate with that and appreciate that, because we all say, “No, that’s never going to happen to me, never going to happen to me.” Well, it happened to me. It does happen, and I don’t want that for you?

    Mac: Exactly. No, well said. I mean, thank you. I’m sorry all that happened to you. In a way, from where you sit, you can kind of tell the future? When people come to you, you’ve already lived this, and human nature being what it is, you can kind of tell, I’m sure, when people are in front of you where they’re going, and it’s not a good road.

    Joe: Exactly.

    Mac: Yeah, so when it comes to children, I think about the destructive part of divorce being the worst aspect because kids naturally want their mom and dad. They want their parents in their lives. And children are not just innocent, but I like how one person put it—they see you as their superhero, and a superhero cannot be a bad person? But in every superhero story, there’s a villain, and a lot of times one parent will cast the other as the villain in the story. And so naturally, when the child goes to the mirror, they’re going to look at themselves and feel that division, like, “Well, if one parent is saying the other one’s evil, basically what does that say about me?” Because I’m an identity of both.

    So I guess that’s the encouragement out there for many parents who are listening—you have to both be the superheroes for your children so that they identify with that. So how has what you went through impacted now what you do?

    Joe: Well, along with the personal experience, another thing that happened—and again, my recollection, it’s been a while, it’s a bit fuzzy—but I seem to remember that my dad would get paid on Friday. This is back in the ’80s when people got paid weekly, and he’d get paid on Friday, and the checks for child support and alimony would probably show up on like Monday or Tuesday? Because he was living close, I have no idea. And then one day the alimony checks just stopped because he decided that he wasn’t going to pay anymore.

    And my mom, at the time, she had been working part-time. She really raised me probably for the first 11 years of my life, and then saw the writing on the wall and thought, “Maybe I better get a job and try to support myself.” And so she was working part-time, which then became full-time, and she had spent so much on attorneys and the process and was so burnt out by it that she just couldn’t go through it anymore? She just couldn’t go fight to get the alimony turned back on, if you will.

    So the destruction of the process just wore her down so much that she couldn’t even fight for what perhaps she was legally entitled to? That was in her agreement. And then I think the child support may have also stopped? This was pre-enforcement days and things like that.

    And so now here we are, me and my mom. She had tried—she kept the house? And so that’s another thing that’s a lesson that’s learned. She basically exchanged any s she had to my dad’s pension and retirement in exchange for buying him out of the house as part of the settlement. And that left her with zero in retirement. So she had no retirement, she had this house now that she had to take care of. My dad was in construction, so whenever anything went wrong, he fixed it? Now it’s me and my mom, and I’m not very handy, I will tell you that? I’m not very good with that kind of stuff.

    And so here is a woman who should be getting money, can’t get up the strength or the financial resources to get what she is entitled to and deserves. She’s now got this home that she’s trying to manage, this teenage kid, and she’s just like, “Okay, what are you going to do with this kid?” ? And I watched how that really wore down on her, and so she had to pick up multiple jobs. I didn’t see her. She’d come home at 9:30 at night, leaving a teenage boy alone until 9:00 at night. Thankfully I was a good kid. I didn’t burn down the house or do anything, but I didn’t have parents. I didn’t have siblings, I didn’t have parents, and it was a really lonely existence.

    And as much as I so appreciate what my mom did in trying to support me and keep the house and do all those things, I really wish my parents had talked, put my interests first, and said, “Okay, what do we collectively have to do so that you, mom, can work a job—because you have to work—but you don’t have to work three jobs, and I can spend some time with each of my parents?” Because my dad was really involved in my life up until then. He was the baseball coach and the scout leader and all of that stuff, and then poof, just disappeared. So that was particularly shocking.

    And so when you see conflict in a divorce and you see the collateral damage, it’s not just to the people involved, the spouses—it’s to the kids, and it’s not just to their lives today, it’s to their lives 10, 20, 50 years from now? Down the road. And that’s what you and I, I’m sure, we both see.

    Mac: Yeah, yeah. And so therefore, that’s the work you do at Equitable Mediation—that’s the website. And so I read somewhere that I think you had said that life is best viewed through the windshield and not through the rearview mirror. Can you talk a little bit about that? Like, why is it so important to do things to help people resolve their cases in a way that’s going to put them in a good path forward?

    Joe: Exactly. That’s my favorite quote. We know from our practice that mediation is a forward-looking process. And our job, whether people like this or not, our job is to help them craft an agreement that’s going to govern their relationship, their parenting, their financial relationship from what I call day zero—the first day you walk in my office—forward.

    Now, did you always go to your husband’s or wife’s family on Thanksgiving and that was unfair? Sure, okay. Did so-and-so never do the laundry or pick up the groceries or leave their shoes in the hall? Sure? We all do, by the way. But that doesn’t matter. What matters is where do you want to go? If you’re going to continue to pick up old grievances—and quite frankly, I tell my clients this up front, it’s not to be cruel, it’s not to be flippant, it’s not to sound like I don’t care. People who know me, they’re like, “Joe, you care way too much, you get way too involved.” But it’s because it’s destructive if we spend all our time trying to go through all these past grievances. We’re never going to be able to do the thing that you said you both wanted, which was to end your marriage and move your lives forward separately. And let me help you do that?

    And so that’s the whole looking through the windshield. We want to see where we go, because another personal aside is that the divorce really destroyed my mom. She never dated, she never had any friends, she became that kind of shut-in lady where if the ball went in the yard, you didn’t want to go get it. Like, it was like that stereotype. And it broke my heart because she really—she was a young woman at the time, she was 45, and I say that as I’m older than 45 now, so I still feel young? And so she had her whole life ahead of her, and this just destroyed her because she kept looking back, looking back.

    And when even after she was divorced, I remember one night sitting at Christmas, and it was I think about 20 years later, and she’s like, “I wish my husband was here.” And I was like, “Mom, you’ve been divorced for 20 years. Like, we need to understand this. You never went to therapy, never got any help.” And so I really, I’m very, very, very adamant about helping people look forward for the myriad of reasons that I just shared.

    Mac: Yeah, no, I can see that’s genuine, definitely. And so how do you deal with people who might, for lack of a better word, be stuck in the past, where they have so much hurt and wounds that they’re just, I guess in a way, clouded where they cannot move forward? And I’ve had them come to my office where we’re mediating these kind of difficult and very strenuous cases. How do you deal with that?

    Joe: Well, one thing you’ll see from our website—my partner, who’s also my wife, you can figure that out by our last name—she is a divorce coach. So she’s a certified professional coach, and we take the tact that divorce has three parts. It has tactical—you got to gather up all the stuff? Fill out all the forms, write up all the agreements. Financial—all the money, figure out the dollars and cents and what goes where. And the biggest one—emotional. And it’s the emotional one that gets people in trouble?

    People will say that they’re arguing over child support or alimony. But what they’re really mad about is, “We always went to your family on Thanksgiving!” That’s really what they’re mad about. And so Cheryl partners with us, and clients will work with me always one-on-one? As a neutral, I’m always working with both parties. I don’t caucus one-on-one. Cheryl, on the other hand, works with clients one-on-one, and so that’s the opportunity for them to help clear some of that emotional baggage, clear those grievances. She helps them kind of get out of their old story—that’s what she calls it. “This is your old story, and it’s not serving you well? Because look where it got you. So let’s write a new story.”

    And that’s her goal—is to get people to say, “Yeah, I do have self-worth,” or “Yeah, I am going to spend holidays with my family,” or “Yeah, I could get a job.” And as soon as they turn that corner and they recognize that humanity of themselves? That self-worth? Because of all the messages they’ve probably been getting over the course of their relationship, that’s when they seem to turn the corner and say, “I’m going to make a change, I’m going to move forward, I’m going to rewrite my future,” because we all have the ability to do that?

    You read those stories about people getting a college degree at 85? Why are they doing that? Because they have the ability to change their future and move forward? And so Cheryl plays a very integral part of that. And I will make no bones about it, because as the mediator, when I see a client like that, and then when I see them in the next session, even though it’s purely confidential and I have no idea if they spoke to Cheryl, I’m like, “They had a coaching session.” You could tell.

    Mac: Exactly, so you’re like, “Yeah.” So let me ask you about the word “Equitable Mediation.” I have to keep looking at it because I keep wanting to say “equitable divorce,” because that’s the natural thing that we always say, equitable divorce. But why did you name it Equitable Mediation? And before you answer, that word in the jurisdictions that I’ve worked in tends to—it’s a legal term, and so we sometimes talk about courts of law and courts of equity. And in family courts, they’re courts of equity because judges do have discretion to try to bring balance and justice in certain circumstances.

    And in Texas law, for example, it’s not 50/50 when it comes to division of property. It’s fair and equitable division of the marital estate, and so sometimes what might be fair and equitable in a certain circumstance might not be 50/50, but it’s just and, okay? So why did you pick that word, Equitable Mediation?

    Joe: Yeah, what a great segue. Perfect introduction to it. Equitable, to me, means fair but not necessarily equal. And when I think about equitable, it can mean different things to different people. So, for example, it’s pretty funny—so I’m an only child, just as a personal note. So as long as I get everything, it’s fair! That’s how I am. Hey, what’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine. But all kidding aside, equitable can mean a lot of things to a lot of people.

    And I’ve had cases, as I’m sure you have as well, where even sometimes when you look at the settlement, you look at the agreement, and you raise an eyebrow, you’re like, “Are they sure about this?” But sometimes people have a particular affinity for an asset like a pension or a house or something. And so a judge, for example, let’s take a house—they might say, “Well, the house is worth this much money, and the 401k is worth this much money.” And maybe the house is worth less than the 401k, but one person is willing to exchange that house for that retirement plan.

    And so as the neutral third party, it’s not my job to tell them they can’t do that or try to persuade them, but I do wonder. And then I think to myself, “Well, that’s the house where their child took their first steps. They played catch in the backyard, and those memories are priceless.” So now this person says, “Yeah, sure, okay, I exchanged X for Y, and it’s worth less, but to me, this is worth more.”

    And that’s the sense I want to convey. I want you to both walk away with what you think is fair, what you think is equitable, what matters to you, even if it doesn’t add up to 50/50 at the bottom line. And along that line, I went through probably a hundred different names, and I was really—when I first started out, I was trying to come up with something that didn’t—my wife is like, “Just use your last name.” “Dillon Mediation.” I’m like, “Yeah, that’s not creative.” Yeah, heck with that! And then I, after writing—sometimes when you write words, they start to lose their meaning—and I got to it, and it just hit me, and that was it. And the rest is history, as we would say.

    Mac: Exactly. Pretty cool. And so back to the house thing, the example you just gave where one person might have a certain affinity to a home because that’s where they lived and that’s where their kids were—I hear this a lot, I see this a lot, where sometimes in a divorce, one spouse wants to keep the home and the other wants it sold. They may have, to them, justified reasons as to why. Sometimes it’s because they want it sold because maybe there’s something connected to justice in their mind, or there was pain there, and it’s not a financial reason, it’s more of an emotional reason? And on the flip side, the person who wants to keep it is doing it for a similar thing.

    So when you, in your practice, help people to think outside the box and to craft solutions that is not just going to be the “sell it and split the money half and half”—how do you do it? Because you have a 98% settlement rate in your office, so people who go to you for mediation walk away with an agreement, more or less. That’s the goal, of course. So why are you so much higher than the national average in settlement rates? How do you do things outside the box for the example I just gave, for example?

    Joe: Certainly. So first, I’ll give a plug and a shout-out to Harvard University. So back in the ’90s, I took a program at Harvard, the Harvard Program on Negotiation, and as a practitioner, I’m sure you’re familiar with the book “Getting to Yes” ? So these are the guys. And they taught it, and it changed my life. It changed how I look at the world, and this is even—that’s how I got into mediation. So that was like 30 years ago? So I’ve been mediating 28.

    And what it really taught me is that conflict isn’t about what you see on the surface. They had a phrase for it—they called it “conversational jiu-jitsu,” like martial arts. And they always said to look for the position behind the position. Dodge the blow, parry, use the other person’s momentum. And so I always remember that, and in my mediations, I’m always doing that. I’m always asking questions, moving people in a direction, kind of herding them around and kind of trying to get behind the answer.

    And a lot of times when people are in mediation, and even probably prior to that? In my experience, at least, there comes a point in a marriage where people are so far apart from each other, they don’t even yell at each other anymore. It just doesn’t matter. So now they’re quiet, and they feel like it doesn’t matter, the reasons don’t matter, that nobody cares. And so, of course, I care. I want to hear it. I want to hear why you’re so mad, why don’t you want that person to keep that? Let’s get that out on the table.

    And sometimes those breakthroughs take a while. Sometimes they might take a session or two, they may take hours. But we’ll keep chipping at it because I know that there is something behind that. That person is hurt by something, that they weren’t recognized for the role that they played doing X, Y, or Z? And when we get to that, that’s the aha moment. That’s where, as professional mediators, we stay quiet? We let the tears flow, we let the emotions bubble up, and then we can make the breakthrough. And that’s what we do.

    And part of why I believe our case resolution rate is so high is that we don’t limit the number of sessions people can have with us. We are committed to the process. Now, that’s probably not the greatest idea sometimes? Because you’re like, “Let me get this straight, Joe. You’re willing to stay here?” I was like, “Yeah, I’ll be there till midnight? I’m not leaving until this is done.”

    And so people kind of like, “I don’t know what’s wrong with this guy,” but I believe, Mac, that tells them that I’m in this with you. I’m as committed to resolution as you are. I want this for you. I don’t want you in the courtroom like me and my parents. And I think they get that, and they’re like, “Wow, he really does care? He’s really in here with us.”

    And so when we can have that moment and that freedom and that we don’t have the pressure of, “Well, you’re on the docket, the judge will see you from 10:15 to 10:30, and you have to decide now,” that’s where the agreements happen. And that’s how we do it. We really let the conversations breathe, really try to dig behind the reasons, and when you get that reason—and man, I’m telling you, it’s, “You didn’t let me buy that new car 20 years ago.” “What?” And the other person is like, “I had no idea.” They’re like, “I love that car. I really wanted it.” And it was like, “Wow, okay, here we are.

    Mac: So, well, I do wish that the law would catch up with mediation, because sometimes the law and the rules we have to live by—they’ll tell the parties to go to mediation, and down here in my jurisdiction, we might say “go to a half-day mediation or a full day.” And what we mean by that is it’s either four hours from like 8 to 12 or 1 to 5, or a full day would be like 8 to 5, okay? And they’ll pay for lunch in the middle. And so that’s a structured approach, fine. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that human beings are just going to be able to magically agree to everything? Sometimes it’s going to take multiple sessions, multiple days. And I wish more lawyers that I work with would know that when they bring their clients to me, like, “Hey guys, just because it didn’t work out in four hours doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep on going.”

    Joe: Exactly, exactly. And the example I give? So I like to exercise—that’s how I keep myself prepared and ready for my clients. And so I go to the gym, and sometimes you go to the gym and you see these guys in there for two, three hours? They’re like, “The more I lift, the bigger I’m going to get.” And what you realize is that—I’ve done my fair share of studying like physiology and exercise science—and there’s a point with the human body where you’re not making progress anymore. And if you’re an amateur, that’s about 30 minutes. And if you’re experienced, like me, that’s about an hour. And if you’re a professional, that’s about an hour and a half.

    And so when you take the example of mediation, you’re taking amateurs and expecting them to come to resolution. And where the magic happens is much like with the gym—you go work out for 30 minutes, you take a day off, next day you work out for 35 minutes, day off? And that’s where the growth comes. And that’s exactly what happens in mediation. And I know it, you know it—the magic happens when that person goes home at night, has their cup of tea before bed, is reading their book, those thoughts are swirling in their head, and they’re like, “Yeah, guess I was being a little harsh today.” That’s what we, as practitioners, need people to do.

    Mac: Yeah, people who sleep on it sometimes make a more educated decision after the fact.

    Joe: Of course.

    Mac: So in the last couple minutes we have, let’s talk about technology a little bit. I understand that you started doing these virtually back in 2011. Now, I pride myself on being somebody who was really into tech, and I was going around helping train people, mediators, to get on Zoom and to do all this, but you were doing this like 10 years before. So where did the vision come from, and why?

    Joe: It’s interesting. True story. So we get a phone call—we were practicing in New Jersey, we practice in multiple states as you probably know—and this is a New Jersey client, and this husband calls. He calls my wife, who happened to pick up the call, and she comes in my office, and she’s like, “Joe, I have this gentleman. He just called, and he really wants to work with us, but his wife has, I think it’s called agoraphobia, where you have a fear of leaving the house, and obsessive-compulsive disorder. And so she wants to mediate, but she won’t leave the house, so she won’t come to the office.” We were practicing in person at the time, and I said, “Oh boy, okay, what are we going to do here?”

    And back in 2011, we really didn’t have super high-quality video. We had screen sharing like with WebEx and join.me and those kinds of things? And so Cheryl and I are sitting there, and she goes, “What if we did it with telephone and screen sharing?” I’m like, “Let’s try it with telephone and screen sharing. Do you think that would work?” And so we put our heads together, and so she calls the gentleman back, and he’s like, “You could do that?” I’m like, “Well, you’re going to be the first, so I hope it goes well.”

    So we made up some little PowerPoint slides—they were hilarious. We made up an Excel spreadsheet to kind of put up a budget and a balance sheet, and we just screen-shared. We didn’t even—I don’t even think we had a video camera at the time, and so we were on the phone. So I’ve got a phone in one hand, I’ve got a mouse in another, and by gosh, it worked. And they were so happy and excited about it.

    And so we said, “Well, gee, that’s interesting.” And so we started offering it to clients to see what would happen. And at first, people were like, “Yeah, I want to see you, I want to see you.” And then after about two years later, we said, “Okay, what if we’re going to say to folks, this is the primary way?” And because we found that doing it remotely, it helped people actually communicate better because they didn’t have to be in the same room and didn’t feel the stare of the ex, soon-to-be-ex, or the presence of that person? They were able to speak more freely, and they felt safer.

    And as we started explaining that and how it’s more efficient and you can take it from wherever you are—because a lot of our clients, with my background in finance, we tend to get a lot of like business owners, executives, people who travel a lot, who have irregular hours? So we tend to get those folks, and that’s what really launched it back then.

    And then after a while, I think finally in 2018, we made the jump to say we’re just doing only online. And so when the pandemic came and everybody else was scrambling, I was like, “Well, this is what we do This is just normal to us.” And so we have our process and our forms and our worksheets and all of our online, all virtual. And that’s why we mediate in six different states, and that’s how we can do it, because currently I’m located in California now, and if I had to go see a client in New York City, I’m not getting on a plane back and forth for a day. That would be hard.

    Mac: Well, that’s amazing. Yeah, I’m glad to see a fellow tech geek like me.

    Joe: Absolutely. Yeah, I love that about you. I was like, “Hey, you got an online mediation school here.”

    Mac: Yes, awesome. So I’m sharing your site again. So what’s the best way people can get a hold of you? Just your website?

    Joe: EquitableMediation.com. Yeah, talk to us. You see that button there—we have a free 15-minute call, which usually turns into a half-hour call because we’re cut of the same cloth. And so you can schedule an exploratory call with Cheryl. She’ll tell you a bit about our services, about us, see if mediation is a good fit for you. You could also schedule coaching with her. And then if it seems like it’s a good idea, then you can schedule a meeting with me and you and your spouse, and then we’ll just have kind of an exploratory initial meeting there as well. And we just really want to help people, just like you. We want to help.

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  • Podcast: The Art of Peaceful Divorce

    Podcast: The Art of Peaceful Divorce

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    I recently had the pleasure of joining Jude Sandvall on The Divorced Dadvocate Podcast to discuss “The Art of Peaceful Divorce.” In this conversation, we explore how couples can navigate the divorce process with dignity and respect, focusing on strategies that minimize conflict and prioritize the well-being of all family members involved. We discuss practical approaches to mediation, effective communication techniques during difficult transitions, and how to create solutions that work for everyone.

    Whether you’re considering divorce or currently in the process, this episode offers valuable insights into making one of life’s most challenging experiences as peaceful and constructive as possible.

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    This transcript was auto-generated and may contain errors. Anything discussed in this podcast should not be construed as legal, financial, or emotional advice. It is for informational purposes only. If you are in need of such advice you MUST seek the guidance of a qualified professional where you live.

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    The Divorced Advocate Podcast – Episode with Joe Dillon

    Jude: Hello and welcome to The Divorced Dadvocate divorce support for dads where we help dads create a healthy and less traumatic divorce. My name is Jude Sandoval and I’m your host. I created this podcast and The Divorced Advocate community as a result of my own high conflict divorce and because you as a dad deserve all the resources necessary to thrive through this challenging time. I encourage you to check out our website at TheDivorcedAdvocate.com where there are resources that correspond to this episode as well as free access to our membership community where you will find live meetings, free workshops and courses, private discussion groups and more. And now on to this week’s episode.

    Hello and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for listening today. We’ve got an important topic that I realized that I have neglected to do any kind of episode or really education or sharing on in the five years that we’ve been recording this podcast. My guest today reached out to me and it clicked in my head and it was a natural fit to get together and chat with him.

    Before I introduce him, I want to remind you to go to TheDivorcedDadvocate.com and check out all the resources that we have there so that you can get the help that you deserve and need. We’ve got everything from free to paid resources wherever you’re at in your divorce whether you’re just contemplating or post divorce. We’ve got something that can help you out there so check it out at TheDivorcedDadvocate.com.

    My guest today is a trailblazer in divorce mediation. He’s been helping couples end their marriages with dignity and financial clarity for over 17 years. As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, he brings an MBA in finance and advanced training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern to guide couples toward fair lasting agreements that protect both emotional well-being and financial stability. He launched virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before it became the norm during the pandemic. The results speak for themselves – Equitable Mediation Services has a 98% case resolution rate, which is remarkable and is far above the industry average of 70%. Please help me in welcoming Joe Dillon.

    Joe: Thanks for having me Jude, very excited to be here.

    Jude: Joe, thanks for reaching out. Like I mentioned, I have been remiss in not really diving into this. I think we’ve talked about positives of mediation and finding attorneys and everything else, but we haven’t really dove into mediation and the positives and the negatives and how you get a 98% case resolution. I think I was telling you right before we started recording I’ve been in mediation six or seven times and I’m over six or seven, so I’m really curious to know how you got to that too.

    But before we jump into some of that, just share a little bit about for 17 years now why you keep showing up to arguing couples every single day and helping them to figure out what they’ve got going on.

    Joe: Yeah, that’s a great question. So a little bit about me – my parents litigated their divorce. You know, a therapist would probably have a field day with me because they’re like “Well dude, this is totally why you do this, right?” But you know they litigated this back in the ’80s and this was before really mediation was a thing.

    So I started thinking about it – they fought for years, they spent so much money, and then literally the last time I saw my father I was 15 years old. I was sitting in the back of a courtroom, in the hallway my parents were still yelling at each other in the hallway. My dad walked out of the courtroom and that was literally the last time I saw him or spoke to him again. Then about five years ago I got a letter saying he had died, and so that was it.

    When you look at that, when you think about that as dads, you know dads are important role models and they’re important players in kids’ lives. To not have a dad in my life – my mom of course did a great job, did the best she could – but there’s roles that dads play that are really critically important. I just wish that they could have put the lawyers aside, talked to each other as people directly because I was sitting right there by the way, and said “You know what do we have to do that’s in the best interest of this kid here?” Because I’m an only child.

    So every time when I get, as you said, I get into the room and I get into the space, I think to myself I want to help couples avoid what happened to me. I want them – I say “Look, you are not going to be husband and wife anymore, but you’re always going to be mom and dad and that is a role that will not change.” So I think that’s what keeps me showing up every single day knowing that there are families out there who are still at the birthday parties together, still sitting at each other’s graduations, can be at the wedding together. I didn’t have any of that, so you know I feel like I really missed out and so that’s really the deep answer. I hope that’s not too deep for the audience.

    Jude: Yeah, no, well I think that adds some credibility as well to that. It’s obviously sad that that’s what has happened, but I think that many of the dads that are listening can relate to some of that. One of the things I have noticed in doing this work for so long now is that some of this stuff is generational. So my parents were divorced, my parents’ parents were divorced as well, and it seems to be a thing that gets carried on unless there is a mindset like you just mentioned which is “Hey, we need to reframe this.” We might not be together but we’re going to be parents and we need to be looking at this from a different perspective.

    Which, if somebody is healthy and is in a healthy mindset, doesn’t have mental emotional challenges going on or something else, then mediation probably is something that’s positive. So share with us then why mediation is positive and maybe some misconceptions around mediation and going to mediation.

    Joe: Yeah, so I think the thing that for me with mediation is that think about when you have a lawyer – two sides have a lawyer and the lawyers are communicating and it’s this sort of faceless interaction. You’re not seeing that you’re hurting the other person. Supposedly this was a person that you at some point in your life pledged your undying love to, so even at a bare minimum you’d want to treat this person like a human.

    Because of the adversarial nature of the legal system, the lawyer is hired to win for their client and they don’t care who they hurt on the other side as long as I win and I get the best settlement. That’s happening from both sides. Mediation removes that and puts the two people face to face, and I think that’s really what the key is – it’s sort of like, I’ll say this to you, we both have websites and if you had say a commenting section that was unmoderated on your website, it’s real easy for somebody who doesn’t have to register to come in and make some snarky comment and then just send and walk away. But if I had to look at you and give you my name, my address, my phone number, a photo of myself, it would be a lot harder for me to do that.

    Mediation’s the same way. If I’m sitting across from you, it’s a lot harder to yell, to be mean, to call names, and quite frankly to try to pull one over on the other person. If you’re staring at somebody and the other person looks at you and goes “Come on, really? Really?” you can’t in good faith – like you said you have to have the mental acuity of course – but you can’t in good faith say “Oh yeah, absolutely that’s true.” You’re like “Yeah, you’re right, I’m kind of joking, you know?”

    So it takes a lot of the air out of the balloon, a lot of the emotions, and by doing that negotiation directly you can clear up a lot of misconceptions, get people to treat each other like humans, and I really think that takes the temperature down and it’s really to me the key to the whole process.

    Jude: So do you require couples to sit in the same room while they are mediating? Now you do it virtually, and I guess along that same concept do they have to be face to face with each other? Because I’ve been in mediation both ways.

    Joe: Yeah, so I’m always of the mind – what you’re referring to, there’s two kinds of mediation. The kind of mediation I do, everybody’s in the room quote unquote. Now if you’re on one Zoom and the other person’s on a different Zoom, sure no problem, we’re each in our own separate video feeds, but I’m always working one-on-two.

    There are some mediators who work in a fashion that’s known as shuttle mediation like the mediator shuttles back and forth between the rooms. I find that kind of breeds mistrust because the one party sitting there now just waiting – what are you thinking? What’s that mediator saying that my husband or my wife? If you’re all in the room, like think about when you were a little kid, how rumors got started and that game of telephone or whatever it is. If you’re all together you can clear up that rumor real quick, but if somebody goes into a different room, says something, they come back – even as a practitioner, let’s just be quite honest, this is a hard enough job without me having to remember what one person said, told me, what I can’t tell the other person. I’m not going to be able to do that.

    So you get everybody in the same room, it makes the conversation go a lot better, clarifies any issues, and it really does like I said reduce that conflict.

    Jude: Okay, so is that – do you feel like that is one of the reasons why you might have a much higher success rate? Because I think probably the majority of times, and this was by request of my ex, we were in separate rooms and even when we did virtual mediation we were in separate rooms so she would never ever have to look at me, never have to be directly communicating with me. Is that – do you feel like that is one of the reasons that you have such a high success rate?

    Joe: I think so. I think having people one-on-one, even if they’re say for example taking the Zoom call from a separate room – you know there’s obviously power dynamics in relationships, so some people are comfortable sitting next to each other, some people aren’t, and they want to be able to speak up. So if that means you’re in the bedroom and you’re in the guest room or whatever it is on Zoom, fine.

    But I do think that leads to that because it does really like I said take the temperature down, clarifies a lot of issues, and also let’s be honest – this is not the most fun someone has ever had, getting a divorce. Do you really want this process to drag on for years and years? No, you want to move through the process in a structured and organized fashion. You don’t want to sound like “Oh this is a business transaction and we’re going to move you through,” but you don’t want it to drag like my parents – it was like three years. It’s like what are you doing? Who is benefiting from this? Lawyers. That’s who’s benefiting from this. Are you getting on with your life? No. Am I getting on with my life as your child? No.

    So again that also expedites the conversation, it gets people to move through the process faster, come to a conclusion, and I say this guy to guy here – I’m half Irish, half Italian, so I’m very stoic. You know, don’t worry about it, suppress your feelings – that’s how I was raised. A lot of guys don’t realize that there’s going to be this emotional avalanche at the end that they need to let happen and they need to welcome it, and the sooner they get there the sooner they can have the breakdown, rebuild, and move forward. That’s really what my goal is to try to help them do that as well.

    Jude: Well so you bring up a good point – there are a lot of emotions that come up in this process. Finances is probably one of the biggest ones that people get obviously wrapped around the axle on. How do you manage that when you’re in the process, when those emotions start to get whether they get heated or whether they get sad or fearful? I think probably if you really want to do a psychoanalysis of it, which we’re not going to do today, but it comes down to fear on both sides – fear I’m not going to have enough, fear I’m not going to be able to provide, whatever it is. But how do you manage that?

    Joe: Yeah, so as you know I have an MBA in finance and so I bring this financial perspective to it because you’re absolutely right. Think about the topics in a divorce – parenting, child support, alimony, property division. Three of the four are financial, and by the way in most of the states we practice in the parenting plan is an input into the calculation of child support, so I’ll say three and a half.

    Going back to what we were talking about before about looking someone in the eye and being able to say to them something serious and have them take you seriously, what I like to do is I have this process that I’ve developed. So I first start people out by preparing these budgets – these are budget workbooks of my own design. We do a joint budget and that shows me what your marital lifestyle looks like. What that does is it says “Look guys, are you living at your means, below your means, or beyond your means?” Because guess what? Soon as you separate households, life’s going to get more expensive, and if you were going into credit card debt while you’re living together, there’s no extra money hiding around for extra alimony or child support. So we level that playing field first.

    Then we get the apart budgets and we say “Look, here’s your lives comparatively post divorce. Is it fair that this person’s sleeping on his friend’s couch in the basement while this person is still staying in the house? Look at the numbers – this person’s spending I don’t know $7,000 a month, this one’s trying to spend $1,500. Is that really fair? Is that good for your kids? Do your kids want to visit dad in the friend’s basement?”

    So you have that first conversation to level set to say “Look, this is what we’ve got financially. There’s no lies here, here it all is.” So that’s the first thing that we do.

    From there, the second thing that happens is we do a balance sheet and we put all the assets and liabilities out on the table because what I found is a lot of people like to talk about stuff piecemeal and what they do is they pick one thing like the house or the car or the 401k or whatever and they just go after it. I’m like “Guys, this is like a big – you got to look at the whole picture.”

    When we get it all out on the table it’s like “Well here’s all the statements” – because I asked him to give me copies of the statements – “here’s a spreadsheet with all your assets and liabilities. There is no money hiding in a bank account, here’s all the credit reports, here’s all the research we did on all your open accounts.” What you see is I’m trying to do is I’m removing the emotions before we even make decisions. So I like to say do the discovery before the deciding.

    As guys, I am Mr. Guilty of this – I am a solutions-oriented guy, I want to fix the problem right away, I go right into solutions mode. What you need to do is you need to go into research, step back, lay it all out, then you can have the conversation so that’s how we approach it – take those emotions out so the conversations can be more productive.

    Jude: Well so those are two things already that I can tell that at least in my experience has not happened – being face to face because that does humanize it and does make it different, and then what you’re talking about with that preparation upfront and having full financial picture, knowing everything that’s going on. I think you said pulling credit reports too so that you can see what credit – that’s something that I’ve never heard of and I think that’s a brilliant idea because then that puts to rest any mistrust or anything or any ability to lie about anything period if you’ve got that and you’re able to trade that and look at that and know “Hey, this is what it is, there’s no money here, this is what we’re dealing with.”

    So it sounds like you do a lot more upfront preparation with the couples before scheduling and having them show up so that there’s more going on, which I think is brilliant honestly.

    So how do you get – one of the things that I run into the most is when one party just doesn’t have a realistic expectation when they’re coming into mediation. And it happens all the time, you know, and it doesn’t really matter who it is, whether it’s the man or the woman. But one party seems to just not have a realistic expectation often times. How do you move past that then when somebody shows up – even if you have all of the documentation and the credit reports and your spreadsheet developed in your MBA program and everything else – and then somebody had showed up thinking, because most of us don’t check the statutes like you mentioned, the child support is going to be tied to the number of nights that you have in a parenting plan. So one person has not done the work, doesn’t know the statutes, doesn’t understand, maybe had this misconception that their life is going to be the same post divorce if not better post divorce, they’re going to maintain the exactly the same lifestyle with two households now, which makes no sense but again we’re not thinking logically often times through this process. How do you mitigate that when there’s one person that just is completely unrealistic?

    Joe: Yeah, great question and that does happen frequently. So the way I handle it, there’s two parts to that. The first we’ve already talked about are those budgets. So what we do is when we do the joint budget, let’s just use some silly round numbers – let’s say a couple living together spends $5,000 a month on their living expenses, their house and their car and their groceries and whatever. Then when we take their apart budgets and we review them and we add them together, one person is spending $4,000 and the other one’s spending $3,500.

    So I say “Okay folks, $5,000 together, $7,500 apart. $2,500 is the cost to divorce” – that’s the phrase I use. “So that’s what it’s going to cost you guys every month to be divorced. So $2,500 times 12” – whatever that math is, $30,000. “Hey, you did some math! Okay guys, you’re an MBA. Let me ask you guys a question – do you have $30,000 lying around right now? Do you put $30,000 a year away in the bank?” And most people will say no. I said “Okay, where’s that coming from?” So we first establish that there’s going to be a challenge.

    Then the second thing we do – and this is a great thing for your listeners to remember, this is kind of a negotiation technique – is you say “Here’s a great question.” So this is what I want everybody to hear: “Help me understand.” When you say “You do this, you don’t get it,” you know the person’s taking that as an attack and of course they’re gonna only entrench in their position.

    “Okay, you want $5,000 a month in alimony. Okay, help me understand how I can pay that to you. If I can do it, I’m really willing to listen.” And now the person instead of you proving their point, they have to prove their own point. What I’ve noticed is a lot of people – what it does is it paints them into a corner to reality check themselves. Then all of a sudden they go “Well yeah, you only bring home $4,500 a month, I guess I’m not getting $5,000 in alimony.” And the other person goes “Right.” There’s like a moment – you’re always as a mediator looking for those moments where somebody has a little bit of empathy for the other person.

    So that’s how we do it and I say “Hey listen, I’m all ears, I’m neutral, I don’t have a horse in this race, but help me understand how that’s possible.” And then a lot of people when they start talking it through and trying to explain it and trying to figure it out, they usually can’t.

    Even if they say “I don’t care, that’s what I want,” then the third option, which is what I prefer not to get to, is you say “Okay, let’s do that. Let’s take a look at what it would be like if I pay you $5,000 a month. Here’s my budget. Take a look at my budget. Do you agree my budget is correct? Yeah, I spend $4,000 a month. Yeah, I bring home $5,000 a month. Yeah, so how do I pay my bills?” And then again you’re trying to get the other person to say “You know what, that doesn’t make sense.”

    Because if you tell them, in their head it makes sense, but you do everything you can to just like we were talking about – that discovery, put everything out on the table and let them come to that conclusion. Because I believe in my heart of hearts that most people are rational actors. Most people are reasonable, it’s the circumstances that wind you up. Somebody cuts you off in traffic – I’m not a maniac, but if somebody cuts me off suddenly I am. Same thing in these situations.

    So in those examples what you’re always trying to do is “Sure, I’m listening, I’m willing as the recipient of that request, I’m willing to give it a shot. Help me understand how that’s possible, let’s talk about it,” and then you stay quiet and you let the other person try to explain themselves. That’s how you do it. Make sense?

    Jude: Yeah, no that’s terrific and I like that “help me understand” is the phrase. And if anybody’s listening, I think that is a great question to just use through this whole process. They could use that with their soon-to-be ex, they could use that with their attorneys, they can use that with anybody that if they just don’t understand, like “Lay it out for me, tell me what I’m supposed to do.”

    Because like you said, what you just described – as guys naturally want to problem solve and we want to figure this out, and I’ve worked with enough guys and you probably have too, like we probably have come to this mediation with a plan A, B, C, and D in most of our minds of like what we can do, what we can’t do, what we’d like to do, all these different scenarios that we can try to work out. I tell you I’ve coached some guys that literally show up with the spreadsheets of those three, four, five different scenarios of how you’re gonna go through it, which I have respect for and I do appreciate that.

    But that’s a great question – “So I’ve got these five options, so help me understand which one’s going to work for you” or whatever the situation is. I like that a lot.

    So I’m curious though because there is a segment of the population, and unfortunately guys that tune into this show and come to the community deal with people that have some significant mental emotional issues, maybe personality disorders – that’s maybe 5 to 10% of the entire population out there. How do you work through something like that and how do you get to a 98% success rate if you’re working with folks that some might just have a different reality? Because personality disorder is essentially somebody has a different reality than yours, different reality of the world. I’m not a clinical psychologist or anything, that’s just kind of generally, and you’ve done enough of this to know they just don’t have the reality of what’s going on, they have a different reality of what’s going on.

    How do you work through some of that stuff and what suggestions do you have for any of the guys that might be dealing with somebody like this that really really want to try to come to some settlement, some amicable way to get through this process? Because what I’ve found, and this is probably generally on both sides, is the guys that come to our community that might be dealing with somebody like this are genuinely dads that want to figure something out that just got into a marriage that’s just untenable anymore and they’re trying to find – and mediation would be great because they know they’re going to save money, it’s going to be easier on the kids, all the reasons that you described before – but it’s just somebody that they’re stuck and this person’s stuck in their reality that is not the reality.

    Joe: Yeah, absolutely. So the good news is a lot of people – I think they forget really what happens, Jude, is they forget that there’s steps in the process. There’s gradations you can take. You don’t have to pull the pin out of the grenade and go right to court, and mediation is always a great first step. You’re going to mediate, you’re going to try to mediate.

    As we were talking about before we jumped on here, a lot of states these days have mandatory mediation anyway, so what I remind people is you’re going to either see me now or you’re going to see somebody like me later. The chances are the person you’re going to see later is going to be appointed by the court or might not have the experience that say someone like me in private mediation has, so your always best bet is to try mediation first.

    Now I will tell you that there are people who come to us and I want to be very honest with them, and we’ll have a first meeting, an initial meeting, and I’ll say “You know what folks, I don’t think mediation is the right thing for you because of,” for example what you said. However, there is an alternative to pulling the pin out of the grenade and it’s called collaborative divorce.

    How that works is you’re all in the same room and in this situation it’s you and your attorney, your spouse and their attorney, and then a relevant professional. And again, you know, poking fun at ourselves as guys, you know especially me – I’m an only child, I’m always “I can do it myself, I don’t need any help,” and we’re always kind of just putting on the brave face.

    Well in this case you have this room where there’s the protection of the attorney, it’s a neutral setting, and then you can bring in a mental health professional or a child psychologist or some other qualified what we might call fifth party who they’re not a mediator, but they’re there to provide that kind of support and to be able to explain to the individual who perhaps might not be on the same plane as the other person what’s going on, how it’s impacting them, getting them to understand how compromise works and what they need to do and what’s in the best interest of the kids.

    So even if you can’t mediate, I’m a fan of then saying go to collaborative divorce, get those people in the room. Because you know, look, I could tell you I have some of my best friends are attorneys, and like you and I we were just talking about, my background is finance. I am not a mental health professional, you don’t want me as your mental health professional, I’m woefully unqualified, and most of my attorney friends will say the same thing. So they say “Look, let’s get somebody in the room neutral that both sides can pick so that they can bridge that gap,” and I find that that helps a lot. That’s a key thing.

    So if your listeners are in a situation where they’re thinking “I don’t know if my spouse is able to have a good faith negotiation or to understand fully what’s happening,” try collaborative divorce. This way you each have attorneys, you have other professionals that can support you, and it avoids you from having to wind up in a courtroom. More – not as cost-effective as mediation of course, but far more cost effective than litigation. So that’s what I would say.

    Jude: Yeah, so have you found that couples that may not be successful in mediation do have success in collaborative divorces?

    Joe: You know, I don’t know for sure only because sometimes like I said we’re lucky, we’ve had – I can count on one hand the number of clients that have not been able to come to agreement with us, so I can’t speak definitively about what happened. But the clients that probably we are unable to help should not have been mediation clients in the first place – they were not being truthful upfront and hiding something, some assets or some other situation.

    But I do think they can be if I as a professional had to make that regard, because what’s nice about mediation is you can take what you’ve done and a lot of times in my experience it’s usually a handful of issues, one or two issues that are the sticking point. So you don’t need to start again, take what you’ve done in mediation, bring it to a collaborative process, say “Look, we agree on these 95 things, we need help with these five,” and then at least you’re not starting from scratch. I think that’s how you would succeed.

    Now if somebody goes into mediation and says “This is ridiculous, I don’t agree to any of this, I’m getting a lawyer and I’m going to burn this thing to the ground,” yeah then I don’t know what’s going to happen. But if you get the people who just have that one or two sticking point that they just can’t get past and for some reason we can’t get them past it, then that’s what I would say – you go to collaborative, you use that process to just finish the rest of it, and then you’re on your way.

    Jude: Got it. Yeah, I asked because it seems to me, and this is just anecdotal and subjective, that the couples that have not been successful in mediation are less – have less of an opportunity or are less prepared to be successful in collaborative divorce because collaborative is truly collaborative. If you’re mediating and you’re doing mediation in the correct spirit of mediation, you are collaborating, and part of collaboration is having to come to consensus, you’re having to give and take, you’re having to resolve all kinds of things that is collaborative.

    If they haven’t been able to get it done in mediation, I’ve found that typically they’re not able to get it done in a collaborative type situation. But maybe it’s just because collaborative divorce is not – has not become as prevalent as regular divorce is yet. Well hopefully that’s starting to change and there’s maybe more people thinking about doing it or having some success through it because I truly think that it’s like you said, it’s the next step up from mediation if you need to bring other people in, you need to have more – the way that I describe the differences, and correct me if I’m wrong, is if somebody has an unrealistic expectation around things, you have somebody that’s there to help educate them on the process maybe or the realities of stuff like you talked about bringing mental health professionals in or finance professionals in, real estate professionals, whatever, that will help them to say “Look, this is what the lay of the land is. These are your options. You might have one, two, three, four, five options, but actually realistically it’s going to be one or two. The other ones, you can argue it in court, but probably 99% – three of those five are going to get thrown out and you’re not going to have any choice.”

    So it seems to be whereas mediation is not as – you’re not spending weeks, months, and going through that process, you’re spending hours and it’s more inclined to people that are going to actually just get something done.

    Joe: Right, you know, and you brought up a great point before – it’s a mindset. There’s a quote and I think it’s Henry Ford – “If you think you can or you think you can’t, you’re right.” I love that quote because if you come into mediation going “This isn’t going to work,” well guess what, it’s not going to work.

    But at the end of the day, if you say – and you know this from experience, I know this from experience as a child – is that when you enter the legal system, all bets are off and you’re just putting – you’re rolling those dice. You’re not even rolling them, a stranger is rolling them for you. Instead in mediation you control the outcome.

    Now granted, could you have gotten more, could you have paid less if I litigated? Yeah, maybe you could. But what’s worth it? Is it worth the $50,000, $75,000, $100,000 you spent on a litigated divorce? Is it worth the years of your life that you could have been playing catch with your son or going to dance recital? You’re going to be in courtrooms. Sometimes you just have to let it go and you have to just say “Well that was terrible, that’s not what I wanted, but you know what, it was worth it for my emotional well-being.”

    Because guess what, we’ve talked a lot about finances and all of those things, but the biggest price someone pays is an emotional one. Your money comes and goes. We all lose jobs, we get jobs, we make bad investments, we spend too much on a bar tab or whatever it is. But at the end of the day, the only thing you got left is your emotional peace of mind, and that’s priceless.

    Jude: Yeah, for sure. So if you can give some advice to the dads listening as far as what to look for in a mediator, like what kinds of questions to ask a mediator? Because I find a lot of the guys will say “Hey yeah, we’re going to try mediation first, we’re going to find a private mediator first, not a court-appointed mediator,” which I agree with you, I think that there’s a distinct difference in their abilities to get that done and to get something done between a court-appointed mediator and a private mediator. You guys have to have success – well you don’t have to have success, but yeah you kind of do. Your success breeds more business, which you want to continue to feed your family, then you want to be successful.

    Which you know, and you know you’ve got my mind going just a ton because like I said I’ve been through it six or seven times, have never had success. I think I feel like part of that might be just generally the mediator population that we have here because it is court ordered and how good or bad they actually are here in Colorado. But also I would contend that this probably is true in some other states or areas where they require that – they’re not – they might not have the level of skill that someone like you or mediators in other areas have, which is going to lead to failure.

    When that failure happens – okay so I was going to ask you another question, I’m going to shift a little bit here – so when that failure happens, it – the challenge I have with doing the mediation without being prepared like you described is that it starts everything off poorly of course. So if you get into a bad mediation and somebody’s not realistic for whatever reason, it fails, it seems to set things back as opposed to starting off on the wrong foot.

    So actually I can dovetail this into the question I was going to ask – so what can the dads look for in a mediator, what kind of questions can they ask the mediator before getting into the process and deciding on starting out with the mediation process?

    Joe: Perfect, I’ll give you some great questions to ask. So the first thing I would ask is “Explain to me your mediation process.” We’ve been talking about this a lot and having a process is key. Imagine if you – I’m a big baseball fan – imagine if you just put nine guys out on a field and said “Play a game.” What was the first thing they would ask? Well, what are the rules? Where do I go? Where do I stand? Who does what? You want to know, you need a framework by which to operate with. So that’s actually what the Colorado Rockies do here – I just went to the game last night, that’s why they’ve only won 12 games this year.

    Jude: Yeah, I’m sorry about that and I’m a big Cubs fan so sorry about the whole Chris Bryant thing, so you can blame me for that.

    Joe: So you know, but I would ask “Hey, what’s your process look like? Do you even have one?” Because as we’ve talked about, if you don’t have a process, things can spiral pretty quickly. So that’s question number one.

    Number two – what’s your case resolution rate? You got to be hitting at least 70%, that’s industry average, that’s a C. If you’re getting into 80, you’re getting into 90, that’s solid, that’s good. So what’s your case resolution rate?

    What’s your training look like? That’s a third question. So what I would say to your listeners, and this is terrifying for a professional like myself, is if Jude, you decided one day “You know what, I talked to that Joe Dillon guy, he seemed pretty cool, I’m going to take this 40-hour mediation class at the Holiday Inn this weekend and I’m going to get myself a business card” – that is literally all you need to do to become a mediator in most states. Forty-hour course. Like wow, that’s just terrifying.

    So what kind of training, continuing education do they continue to do to stay on top of trends? Because as you know, the laws change every year. So what’s their training, what does that look like for them? Do they just take the 40-hour course or do they continue to take additional training?

    And then I’d also talk to them about their fee structure because here’s another thing that we do. So we’re pretty unique in the sense we offer a flat fee and people can have as many sessions as they like within this time frame. We call it this mediation roadmap. So in effect what we’re doing is we’re putting our professional reputation on the line and saying – this sounds like a game show almost in a weird way – I can get your divorce negotiated within this period of time for this price, and if it goes, then it’s on me if I screw up.

    When you’re billing hourly, there’s no incentive for that professional to resolve your issues. I mean that’s the model, that’s okay, I get it, that used to be the model, but that’s broken. I don’t want to – I’m not an ATM, and so I want to know how long is it going to take, how much is it going to cost, what am I going to get? So we tell people that right up front and if somebody can’t tell you that, if they’re not confident, that says – look, and this is where we get to say we say between 10 and 14 weeks you could finish your whole divorce mediation. Now not the court process because you’re at the mercy of the courts and filing it and all, but you could get your whole substantive agreement negotiated within this time period. Like I can give you a 98% chance that’s going to happen.

    If I said to you “Hey Jude, you play the lottery? I got a 98% shot of winning, would you play?” Of course you would. And I’m saying to you, I’m even putting it on me saying that if you need two sessions, four, six, eight, we’re making progress, you’re still paying the same price, that’s on me. I’m willing to do that.

    So I think if that combination of your training, your process, your fee structure, your professional societies that you belong to, your engagement – all of those things kind of come into play. And you know I can tell you from experience, a lot of times people – one thing I would not concern myself with are online reviews because in a divorce, first of all, who’s going out publicly and saying “That was awesome! That’s the best divorce ever! I love that guy Joe Dillon, he’s great!” You know, they’re not doing that. And the ones that are are mad, they’re angry about something. We have like three reviews somewhere in Google I think.

    But we do ask people to fill out an anonymous survey after they’re done with us and we pull quotes from it. So someone else should also be able to say “Look, I can’t give you referrals or references” – “Hey Jude, I got your phone number from my mediator, can I talk to you about your divorce?” You’d be like “What?” They should be able to at least say “Look, here’s a smattering of feedback we’ve gotten and here are the things that people mention.” And you’ll notice patterns. So I think that’s really what I would say – those questions and to avoid online reviews because really they’re just really not accurate these days when it comes to this topic. So I hope that helps.

    Jude: Okay, what about people that are in states or areas where there is court order mediation? Would a question – would a question like what percentage of your business is court-appointed, what percentage of your business is attorney referred, and what percentage of your business is private – would that be a good question to ask too? Because I got to tell you Joe, like you know the phrase “you don’t know what you don’t know” – I feel like that. And talking to you now in just this 45 minutes that we’ve spent together, that you’ve raised a whole bunch of new questions but things that could help everybody in general if they knew this, but the guys that are listening to have some more success upfront with a mediator.

    Because what you’ve described has not ever been an experience that I’ve had in the six or seven times. I hear that. I’ve literally had mediators after the shuttle back and forth, after one room in a half hour say “We’re probably not going to get anything done today. Great, thanks.” And then you paid your minimum and frankly I was just happy that you paid your minimum two hours and I wasn’t going to pay another six hours. And even if they only worked a half hour, I was happy that I cut my losses.

    So but that’s the experience that I’ve had, and until – unless I’ve had an experience that was better than that, which is what you’ve been describing to me, I didn’t know – I don’t know anybody. I think a lot of us don’t know any better, and I think I really feel while mediation is a great idea, it’s just like having a bad plumber – if they could just make things worse if they show up and they’re crappy. So if you’re trying to have good intentions and getting into mediation and then you have a terrible experience, it just sets things back like I said.

    So yeah, so I think another question in addition to what is your process – I think that’s a great question – what’s your case resolution rate – I would love, I’m going to start asking that all the time now because I don’t know that any of them keep that. I have not seen that. I would think that every mediator would want to have that as a benchmark like in all of their advertising – 90%, 98% – unless they’re not successful, unless they’re doing the shuttle back and forth and “I’m done in a half hour, it’s just not going to work out today” scenario.

    Joe: Along those lines to make a comment about that is my wife Cheryl, she’s a divorce coach and she’s my partner in this, so she helps some of our clients as well. And you know, if your case resolution rate isn’t high, you’re in the wrong line of work because the bottom line is I’m a divorce mediator on my business card, but the truth of the matter is I’m a problem solver. And if I’m not willing to like get in the arena and say “Guys, we got to figure this out” and really care about it – you really need to care about this. It’s like you were saying to me at the beginning of the show – why do you keep doing this? It’s because I actually give a damn about it because I’ve seen the other side of the coin.

    I can’t tell you what to do, but man, you just don’t want what happened to me. You just don’t want the alternative. Trust me on this. Just hang with me, it’s going to be hard, but we can do this. And I’ve come home after a day and she’s like “How are you doing?” I’m like “I just got to sit quietly downstairs and pet the dog.” You know, it takes a lot out of you, but you have to care, and I think that’s a lot too.

    Another question I would have your folks ask is “Is this your full-time profession?” That’s another good question. Do you mediate full-time? Because I don’t know, you know, I don’t know if I mentioned this – so when I was living in Chicago and I was kind of teaching at Northwestern University, I was like an assistant to the people who were teaching the mediation classes, and a lot of the people who came in there were mental health professionals, marriage counselors, and they thought “Well, you know, I’m already seeing couples in trouble so I’ll become a divorce mediator as well.”

    It’s like you just said – imagine if the plumber showed up at your house and gave you a business card and said “Hey, by the way, in addition to plumbing, I also repair carburetors and I also paint bedrooms and I also do needlepoint.” You’d be like “Are you really qualified as a plumber?” So you probably want to find out – does this person practice some kind of conflict resolution full-time? Because this is a skill. Mediation is a skill and it needs to be honed and sharpened and continued, and so that’s another good question.

    Jude: Yeah, yeah, I think that’s a great question. Only challenge is that if they get all their business – like they’re not in the wrong business if they’re getting automatic business. If they’re getting automatic business from the court and then they’re mailing it in, that’s where you got to ask “Well, what percentage of your business, how much business?” And I’d be curious because as you know, because you deal with different parts of the country, so much of the family law court is a cottage industry where the attorneys know the mediators, know the mental health professionals, know the finance, and then they’re just all working together. They know the judges because they went to law school with them and then they practiced for a while and then they got on the bench, and then they’re not going to piss them off and they’re not going to really argue for their client because they don’t want to piss the judge off because they’re going to have to see them again. They’re not going to piss off opposing counsel either because they’re going to have to see them again and talk to them. So this is a whole cottage industry thing.

    So which again, when I’m coaching guys – and I firmly believe that every person now – I didn’t when I started this, I was like “Yeah, coaching would be good for you,” but I think that every person going through divorce should have – I absolutely agree 100% all the time – a coach so that they can know and that they can understand this whole process and what goes on. And that question of what percentage of the business do you have to go out and you actually have to get yourself, I think in especially in the states where it’s court ordered, is a fantastic question. And full-time – do you do this full-time, do you feed your family doing this? Because you’re committed to it if you are. And if you do, what percentage of that is private that you work with couples outside of the court, what percentage of that is attorneys that you know that you’ve worked with, and what percentage is court-ordered? And then the last question is what is your resolution rate based on all that? Because then you can – I mean this is a higher equation thing – but you can see if 90% of their cases are court ordered and they have a 25% success rate, then you got it right there. It’s the Colorado Rockies and the Chicago Cubs for so many years – people kept showing up to the games even if they weren’t successful just because they kept showing up. That was the Cubs forever, that’s the Colorado Rockies now, because everybody shows up and they don’t care if they win or not. So it’s that same philosophy – they keep getting business because it’s just given to them, they have no incentive to really be successful.

    Joe: Exactly, yeah, that’s – I think those are great questions that you ask, and that leads me into just re-emphasizing because I do with the guys all of the time is that you’re in charge of this process. Absolutely, that’s a great point. Get educated, ask the questions, don’t bury your head. If you weren’t the leader in your family and you weren’t leading, it might be one of the reasons why you’re in the position you’re at. It’s the time now for you to start doing that. Ask your mediator, don’t get – find another mediator and ask the questions. Find – if you don’t get the answers or you don’t like the answers, find another one. But make sure to start taking the reins in this process.

    Joe: And if I can just – I’ll share this with you, you know, I’ll answer a question you didn’t ask but you kind of did. The percentage of clients we get from the courts or referral is zero. 100% of our business is client referral or direct, and we for that very reason – it’s exactly what you said – because we work hard, we’re selective. We interview our clients too because we want to make sure that they’re as committed to this process as we are because we’re putting it in day in and day out.

    And along the lines of what you were saying, part of how we do that is if you go on our website – and you probably have that in your show notes here whatever it is – we have a resource center, and since 2007 – I can’t believe I’m saying that out loud – I have been blogging and I’ve been writing these guides, everything from divorce after 20 years to amicable divorce to how does alimony work and all these things. That’s how people find us because we feel very strongly that you need to get educated on this process.

    Because I’ll just – you know, I know everybody’s listening so it’s not really a secret – but an educated client is a great client for us. They come in with realistic expectations, they come in with a sense of how things work. They don’t have to have all the answers, but they have enough information to know sort of what they don’t know, and they can ask the intelligent questions.

    So our philosophy has always been to invest in people and educate them, and if they work with us, great, and if they don’t, that’s great because we get visitors from all over the world and we’re only practicing in six states. But let them get that knowledge so that like you said they can go away, they can feel empowered, they can feel educated, and then the fear also subsides.

    It’s like I remember being a kid – I had to get my wisdom teeth out. I have no cavities in my teeth, I don’t know how that happened. I have no cavities, never really had a problem with a dentist, and the first real main interaction I had with a dentist was to get my wisdom teeth out. I was freaking out because I’m like “Oh my god,” and then like two hours later I’m eating SpaghettiOs. I’m like “Well, I freaked myself out over this.” If I had known, you know, same thing – get educated, reduce the fear, reduce that reactivity, work with a coach like yourself, and then get through the process confident. That’s really key.

    Jude: Yeah, perfect. So we could probably talk for another hour but we’re coming up on an hour. So where is the website where the listeners can find that blog and that information?

    Joe: Yeah sure, you just go to EquitableMediation.com and then you’ll just see right there there’s a resource center that has blogs, it has video courses, we have a free course on mediation, we have free ebooks, blog posts, all this kind of stuff. There’s even some courses that you can purchase. We have – I put together a whole negotiation course on how to negotiate a divorce, not fill out the court forms and all of that stuff, but how to actually get into the room and negotiate with your soon-to-be ex. What are all the things that I as a mediator do, whether clients know it or not, you also can learn to do that. It’s not hard, you just have to have certain tricks of the trade in your back pocket if you will.

    But a lot of that stuff is out there, a lot of it’s free. Just feel free, go there, use the resources that are out there, get educated on it. And just tell your listeners absolutely like don’t be afraid – we have people who sometimes come to our first meeting and they’ve printed out our blog posts. I was like “That’s such a high compliment.” It’s like somebody took the time to print out something you wrote and keep it. I was like “Well in this day and age that’s so digital and scrolly and all that,” you’re like “Oh cool, thanks.”

    Jude: Yeah, and then at the website can they reach you and get a hold of you through the website?

    Joe: Yeah they can, so you’ll see there’s a button that says “Talk to Us” and we practice in Washington State, California, Illinois, New York, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey – those are the six states we practice in. So if you live in one of our six states, there’s a little button up top that says “Talk to Us.” You click that, you schedule a free call with my partner Cheryl. She’ll tell you about how the process works, things like that, see if you’re a good fit, if mediation’s a possibility. Then after that you can schedule an initial meeting with me and your spouse, so that’s the three of us.

    So we have an opportunity for you to reach out, schedule a call with Cheryl, no obligation. We just want to say “Hey, does mediation work for you? Can we work with you? Are you a good fit? Are we a good fit?” Give you a little education, a little background, and again it’s really just about getting knowledge.

    Because I’ll leave you with this – when I think back to all the clients I’ve had, I can probably count on two hands, maybe I’ll say one fraction of 1% of the clients who have come to us who have been previously divorced. Most of the people we work with – literally the 99.9% of the clients we work with – this is the first time they’re going through this. And like you said, I thought that was perfect – you don’t know what you don’t know. So know it, learn it, it’s out there, you can learn it. Get educated, it makes all the difference.

    Jude: Yeah, awesome. Last question – when are you coming to Colorado and the other 44 states because we definitely need a better type of mediation like you provide?

    Joe: I appreciate it. You know, give it some thought because we like to go into a state where we understand how it works, we’re comfortable mediating, we build a professional network before we even think of mediating somewhere. We want mortgage professionals and review attorneys and filing professionals and folks in our back pocket. But we’ll certainly keep Colorado in mind, and yeah, I’m really sorry you had that experience, man. I tell you Jude, that just breaks my heart, but unfortunately it’s a story that I hear a lot because we get quite a few clients who have come to us from other mediators and they’re like “What do you – what are we doing here?” And I’m like “Well, this is how it works.” Well I should say this is how it should work, and that lends us to that case resolution rate because if you have that process, you have it all out on the table, it’s really hard to argue with the facts.

    Jude: Yeah, no, that’s awesome, and it’s a good thing because then it gives me the opportunity now to share a right way with everybody and to be able to point out the difference in the future going forward with the dads that I come in contact with that there is a better way to do this. This is how, this is who you can talk to, and these are the questions. Like I learned so much today, it was phenomenal. I truly truly appreciate it. You know, I’ve been in the family law system for 13 years and this is enlightening and eye opening for me today, and I hope it was for everybody else that listened.

    Joe, I really appreciate what you’re doing, really appreciate the professionalism and the wisdom and the conscientiousness that you bring to doing what you do. It’s obvious when talking to you and hearing you speak, so having professionals like you in the system gives me hope and helps me to tell guys “Yeah, mediation is a good thing. Find somebody like Joe and Equitable and it can be a good thing.”

    Joe: That’s great. Well thanks for being here, I sincerely appreciate it.

    Jude: My pleasure, thank you.

    Jude: To hear the rest of this episode and access the corresponding resources, visit TheDivorcedAdvocate.com and become a member of our community. It’s free to join and will provide you with the resources you deserve as a divorced or divorcing dad. Thank you for listening, God bless, and I’ll talk with you next week.

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  • Podcast: Mediation and the Mid Life Divorce

    Podcast: Mediation and the Mid Life Divorce

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    In this insightful episode of “Mid Life Crisis – Bomb Drop and Beyond,” I join host Trina Laird to explore how divorce mediation can provide a smoother path through midlife divorce. When life takes an unexpected turn and couples face the complexities of separating after years together, the traditional adversarial approach often amplifies stress and conflict.

    I discuss how divorce mediation offers a more peaceful and cost-effective alternative, helping couples navigate financial divisions, co-parenting arrangements, and emotional challenges with greater dignity and less animosity. This conversation provides valuable guidance for anyone considering divorce later in life or supporting someone through this difficult transition.

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    MLC Bomb Drop and Beyond – Joe Dillon Interview

    Introduction/Disclaimer

    A midlife crisis is more than just a cultural stereotype. It’s a real psychological struggle that can surface between the ages of 40 and 60. While not officially classified as a mental illness, the emotional and relational fallout is very real, especially for the spouses and families left behind.

    This podcast gives voice to those living through the aftermath, exposing the hidden pain and seeking accountability, healing and understanding.

    Thank you for joining us today on MLC Bomb Drop and Beyond.

    Guest Introduction

    Trina: Hey, bomb squad. Thanks for joining us today. Today, we are speaking with Mr. Joe Dillon. Joe is a divorce mediator and negotiation expert. He’s a pioneer in divorce mediation who has been helping couples navigate the end of their marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years.

    As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, Joe combines his MBA in finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT and Northwestern University to guide couples towards agreements that protect both their emotional well-being and their financial futures. As a child of divorce himself, he witnessed firsthand the devastating impact of attorney-driven litigation on families.

    Joe brings personal experience that, combined with his professional expertise, enables him to help couples focus on creating agreements that work for everyone, especially the children. Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic.

    His results speak for themselves. Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%. As a sought-after expert, Joe has been featured in Business Insider, Newsweek, Forbes, Huffington Post, Yahoo, MSN, The Daily Mail and now on MLC Bomb Drop and Beyond.

    His blog has attracted over 1 million visitors. Joe believes divorce does not have to be destructive. With the right guidance and expertise, couples can part ways amicably while protecting what matters most.

    And here we are going to speak with Mr. Joe Dillon.

    Interview Begins

    Trina: Hello listeners. Today we have a very special guest. We have Joe Dillon. He is a Harvard-trained mediator and he’s going to take our reader questions. So good morning, Joe.

    Joe: Hello there. Hi, Trina. How are you? Thanks for having me.

    Trina: Sure. On this Friday the 13th.

    Joe: Exactly. That’s why I’m staying home because I don’t want anything bad to happen. So I’m doing this from my home office.

    Trina: Okay, so we’ve got a bunch of good questions here from our listeners who are dealing with all aspects of midlife crisis, which often leads to divorce. So first question: what are three things you see that someone in our position can do to help provide the best outcome?

    Joe: Good question. It’s no surprise that divorce is an emotional issue. One of the things we tend to want to do is just react. We’re angry.

    The first thing I would say is take some time to process your emotions before you make major decisions. I know it feels urgent. You’re thinking, “I have to resolve this. I have to be angry. I have to do it.” But rushing through really leads to a lot of regrets down the line. That day or two that you took to breathe could save you years of heartache. You might have a therapist or a group of good friends or a divorce coach. That’s something to do.

    The second thing is think about the long term. Tying into that first point, it’s really easy to think about extracting the pound of flesh in the short run. The short-term wins feel good. You know, “gotcha.” But the gotchas don’t really help you five years from now when you’re trying to pay your bills.

    You really want to focus on what you need to do to rebuild your life one, three, five, ten years down the road and not just what feels fair now, because you might have to give up something now to get something that’s down the road. That’s classic negotiation. You have to give to get.

    The third thing, which is probably the hardest one of all, is you really need to stay respectful in your communication. I know a lot of people, when somebody’s coming at you, the first thing you want to do is bite their head off. You want to go back at them with “how dare you” treatment.

    But no, this is like one of those “I’m going to take my ball and go home” situations. Just because you’re being a jerk doesn’t mean I have to be a jerk. Be committed to being cool, being calm, being respectful. It’s like that old adage: fire needs oxygen. Take the oxygen away and you’d be surprised when you do that. The other person who’s inflamed – those flames are going to get dimmer and dimmer until they go out.

    Those would be my top three.

    Trina: That makes a lot of sense. Let me ask you about going back to number three, because when you’ve got two people that come to mediation, you’re representing both of them. Is that correct?

    Joe: It’s funny – I don’t represent either of you. I advocate for both of you. In other words, I want the best outcome for both people. You can’t get into this line of work unless you care about people. You can’t just phone this job in.

    People ask me why I do this. I’ll share a little bit later about my backstory. My parents litigated their divorce. So I’m a classic case of the broken home and all that stuff. That’s kind of the deep-seated reason why I do it.

    You really want both people to walk away from this thing in the best possible shape they can, knowing that it’s still going to be really difficult even if it goes well. That’s kind of how I position it.

    Trina: So it’s still a win-win for both.

    Joe: Exactly. Obviously, if somebody wins and the other person loses, guess what happens? In mediation, they just go get a lawyer and they say, “I’m not going to pay attention to anything we talked about. I’m going to take you to court.”

    Why would you spend the time and money with me and then just wind up having to litigate anyway? It’s smarter to say, “Okay, I’ll let you pick the movie if I can choose where we go to dinner,” for example. Rather than having those friends who are like, “Well, this is what we’re doing. And then we’re going here.” Even if it’s your friend, you’re thinking, “You’re really bossy. Why are you being so bossy?” Try to compromise, give and get. That’s what I focus on.

    Trina: That makes a lot of sense. It’s always amazing to me when you spend your life raising a family and you’ve been together 20, 30, 40 years, and then all of a sudden, you’re like enemies or something. It just doesn’t make sense to me whatsoever.

    Joe: At some point in your lives, you stood in front of somebody. Even if it was at city hall, you had to have some witnesses who said, “Yeah, I love you. I love you. Till death do us part,” and all that. At some point, you professed your love for this individual, and what happened along the way that they became your mortal enemy? I don’t subscribe to that. I just don’t understand that.

    If somebody did something intentional or malicious, yeah, that can harm your opinion of them. But I’m not a mental health professional, but my wife is a divorce coach. She works with me here at Equitable Mediation. She says, “Look, when somebody says something, it’s not about you, it’s about them. It’s the hurt that they’ve got.”

    If you can remember that when somebody’s coming at you, you’re thinking, “Yeah, this is not about me. This is really about you. So I’m going to just stay quiet.” That’s kind of what I’m saying.

    Trina: When she says that, that’s really important for our audience to know because we get a lot of that. It’s not about you. It’s about lying and committing perjury. Then the other spouse is going, “Wait, what?” When you realize it’s all projection, that sort of helps. Although…

    Joe: It’s not easy, but you’re absolutely correct. I have to believe this, and I say this to my clients sometimes when they’re being obnoxious. They’re like, “I think he just insulted me.” It’s not that I’m trying to insult them. I’m trying to get them to understand that as a functioning society and as a member of that society, there’s a baseline level of behavior we all need to have.

    I assume you were raised by a parent or a guardian or someone that hopefully instilled some baseline modicum of respect and morality in you. I’m trying to tap into that. When somebody’s going off the rails like that, that’s not about you. It’s about them. They just lost their way somehow. It’s a shame, but it’s better to get as far away from that person as you can.

    You’re also going to be seeing each other at funerals and weddings and bar mitzvahs. It doesn’t make sense to me how they can become so combative.

    Trina: That really creates bad blood.

    Joe: Of course it creates bad blood, and that’s hard to get past.

    Trina: It sure is.

    Joe: I remind people, and part of being a mediator is you have a lot of tools in your tool belt to get people to continue to stay talking and stay engaged. One of the guilt trips I like to pull out is to say, “Look, you might not be husband and wife anymore, but you’re still mom and dad. And that doesn’t change.”

    You can sit here and yell, but when you’re at the high school graduation, your son or daughter does not care about that. They want to look over from the stage when they get their diploma and go, “Look, mom, look dad, I did it,” and see the two of you sitting next to each other. That’s what they want. You need to do that.

    By the way, you brought them into this world. So this is on you. You need to – you’re the adults. You need to behave that way. Sometimes we need to remind people of that because I’m sure you’ve done it. I know I’ve done it. You get mad at something ridiculous. Like, “Oh, I can’t believe they didn’t put pepperoni on my pizza. I’m going to write them a review.” You’re like, “Dude, calm down.” We all have to remember that even in the case of a divorce.

    Trina: Absolutely. One thing we see is oftentimes a spouse will file a domestic violence restraining order against the other. And that can start out – if you have couples that have that, that started out, is there still hope for them in mediation?

    Joe: With mediation, people need to be able to engage with each other. If there’s a restraining order, you usually can’t mediate. Now what you can do, and this is what I’d encourage listeners in this situation to do, is something called shuttle mediation.

    There are some mediators that will do this where you have one spouse in one room and the other spouse in the other room. Then the mediator goes back and forth so that at least you’re still not litigating and you’re not getting lawyers in the mix and going crazy with all of that stuff.

    As a matter of safety, what I’d always recommend is you do this in a public place. Sometimes courthouses will even give mediators conference rooms. Then you’ve got security and police and people who can keep the situation under control.

    Now sometimes there are those kinds of restraining orders where people can’t interact with each other. But sometimes, one of the things that we’ve been doing – since 2011, we’ve been actually mediating online. This is about nine or ten years before most people have been doing that.

    It actually didn’t come up from domestic violence. It actually came up from somebody who was, I believe it’s called agoraphobia, fear of leaving the house. So there was a person who was afraid to leave the house. So it was 2011, and this is not the technology we had in 2011. We had basically like trying to share your screen over a dial-up modem.

    But we were able to help this divorced couple with the spouse not being able to leave the house. That can also apply. We do that with our clients all the time. We use Zoom and 100% of our mediation is now what we call virtual or online.

    That can also be good for domestic violence situations. Couples can be in different spaces, different homes, different places, as long as the restraining order doesn’t prevent them from speaking. This way they’re not in the same space. They’re not within 100 feet of each other, but they still can interact. As a mediator, you can work with couples like that.

    If you’ve got that kind of restraining order where you can still speak, find someone who does virtual mediation or online mediation. If it’s something where you can’t interact, ask if the mediator does what we call shuttle mediation.

    That’s still a couple of ways to at least get the advantages and the benefits of mediation without having to lawyer up and turn it into a circus.

    Trina: We have a lot of listeners too where they were all trumped-up charges or accusations. So they’re restraining orders that get dismissed.

    Joe: People in these situations are losing their marbles. They’re just not themselves. I’ve heard some people describe it as an out-of-body experience. They’re like, “My wife, Cheryl, was divorced.” I asked her some questions about it. She said, “I really just didn’t know what was happening.” She was only married, I think, like two or three years. So thankfully they had no children. But she was like, “What is happening here?” She couldn’t even process that she got married at 30 and she’s getting divorced. So I can see that it could make people do crazy things.

    Trina: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Okay. The next question, sort of – this is interesting how it segued into my next question: In your mind, do you as a mediator – in your mind, do you know which person is the more or less emotionally immature person and manipulative one? Can you tell?

    Joe: As a mediator, I’m not thinking in terms of labeling somebody as the problem. The problem is these two people don’t want to be married anymore. That’s the problem I’m addressing. So the solution is to help them not be married. As simple as that sounds.

    Now, we all bring our own baggage and we all bring our own nonsense into the process. There are some things that people do that are proverbial red flags. My least favorite is the person, the interrupter. We all have that person. You’re talking and this person just starts talking over you and you’re like, “Hi, I’m talking here. Can I just finish?”

    Especially the person who – if I said, “Trina, what do you want to do tonight?” and you would say, “Well, Joe, I don’t know,” and I would start talking over you even before I let you answer the question I asked you. So that’s definitely one of them because that’s really somebody trying to control the conversation. They’re interrupting. They’re trying to control the mediator. They’re trying to control the other person.

    That kind of leads into that kind of person starting to wind themselves up. You can see that person who’s interrupting and then you can watch them as they escalate. Then the shift happens. Then the blame starts kicking in where they start bringing up the grievances and the old stuff.

    We have a saying in mediation: mediation is a forward-looking process. For your listeners, when you think of a mediator, your mediator is a nice person. I’m a nice guy, but I tell my clients off the bat, it is not my job to know about really pretty much anything that happened before that got you here unless it’s relevant. Like assets, liabilities, income, children.

    But if in 1997 you were supposed to go to your wife’s parents for Christmas and instead your husband insisted you go to his, that’s irrelevant. That’s not – that’s maybe unfair or maybe caused an argument. But that’s not why we’re here. So when people start bringing up that kind of stuff, you’re just sort of piling on at that point.

    Trina: Do you have a way to interrupt them then to say like, “let’s stay on track here”?

    Joe: We actually do a flat fee. We’re really unusual in the sense we have a limited sessions for a flat fee. Part of the reason we do that is because we also want to put skin in the game. If you do hourly, think about it – as a mediator or a lawyer or somebody like that as an hourly practitioner, people are trying. They’re invested in helping people try to resolve things.

    But if a person doesn’t resolve their issues in three or four sessions, I get paid for my next session and I’ll keep getting paid and I’ll keep getting paid. It’s no disrespect – we all have to make a living – but by putting it into “Here’s the roadmap. Here’s what we’re going to do. We’re going to do a timeframe. Meet with me as many times as you need for one fixed fee.”

    People are like, “Really?” I’m like, “Yeah, I want to take the pressure off you to think about hourly billing. Oh my God. I want you to be able to think and breathe. And also I want to show you that I’m committed to resolving this as well.” Because it doesn’t help you, the customer, the client, or me, the mediator, if six to nine months later, we’re all still talking about missing Christmas in 1997. I’m stressed out. I’m like, “I’m not helping.” And I feel terrible if I’m not helping.

    We do it that way. To answer that question, yeah, we do it that way. That’s kind of also what helps. That’s part of getting people to move past that as we say, “mediation is a forward-looking process. Let’s move you forward.” We remind them, and I know this sounds funny – I have a little bit of a sense of humor. I’m originally from New York City East Coast. So I’ve got a little bit of that edge to me, even though I live in California now.

    I’m like, “Hey, you guys, did I misunderstand you? Did you not come here because you want a divorce and you want to end your marriage and get away from each other?” And they’re like, “Yeah.” And I’m like, “Well, then let’s do that. Let’s do what we need to do to help you do what it is you told me you want.” They kind of laugh a little or they grumble a little and it’s like, “Well, okay, no problem. Then let’s move forward.” We just constantly – we don’t engage on the past. I call it the snow plow. We just keep pushing forward, pushing forward, pushing forward. Eventually we get to the finish line. That’s kind of how I handle that.

    Trina: Totally makes sense. I know you work in several states. I think one might be New York.

    Joe: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania. That’s where I’m originally from. I went to Drexel in Philadelphia. I grew up in the shadow of Manhattan. I lived in central New Jersey in the Princeton area. Then I moved to Chicago. I love Chicago. So we practice in Illinois. Now we live in California. So we practice in California and my wife loves Seattle. So we practice in Washington. We’re in those six states. If you live in one of those six states, we can certainly work together.

    Trina: Awesome. Maybe I can ask what the flat fee is.

    Joe: It varies. We offer clients three different levels of service. We customize our flat fees for people. It’s not just one size fits all because people come to us at different points in their lives and in their relationships and in their process.

    Some folks are really friendly, really simple. So we have a lower flat fee for that. Some folks are like, “We have some complexities. We want some help with this and that.” Then there are some folks who come to us who say, “Look, we need your help with this and that. We also want emotional support. So we want Cheryl as our divorce coach.” That’s kind of like our signature big top package.

    It also really depends – another thing that I’m trying to do. My background actually is in finance and IT. I look at people’s whole situation and I say, “Okay, what is it going to take to resolve everything that you think you need to resolve plus everything that I know that you need to resolve, even though you don’t know it.”

    I want them to walk out of our offices or our virtual offices and not require them to ever set foot back in our virtual office or a courtroom again. The only time I want to hear from people, I tell them, is if you want to send me a Christmas card or tell me your kid graduated high school or you’re getting remarried. I love those calls. I love those emails. I get them from time to time, which is really cool.

    I don’t want “we have a problem and we need to see you again.” We customize everything. Every client’s unique that way. I know that this is exactly what you need. If you follow our process and you do what we ask you to do, you will get the result you seek. You probably saw this – we’re pretty proud of this – we have a 98% case resolution rate.

    I can tell you over 17 years of mediating privately and 28 years in the profession that I could count on one hand the number of clients that we were unable to bring to an agreement. That’s because we know what they need and we explain to them what they need. We hope they listen to us and 98% of the time they do.

    Trina: Because you’re not emotionally involved in it. You have the clear head, you’re running the numbers. That’s really cool too that your wife is a divorce coach and we’re going to talk about that.

    Joe: I think that’s a really cool thing that I think a lot of folks are probably missing out on.

    Trina: Certainly. Okay. Our next question – you sort of answered it. The other part of that question was if so, what attributes of a person educate you on which person that is?

    Joe: They’re pretty obvious. These kinds of folks don’t necessarily hide themselves well. There’s a lot to be said – even when we do Zoom, you can still see body language, you can still see faces, you can still hear tone. A lot of that comes through.

    I like all those crime shows, like those FBI profiler, CSI kind of stuff. I don’t know if it’s all true, but they always say, “Oh, if the person scratches their nose, they’re lying” or whatever. But there is some truth to it. You can see the body language, you can see the faces and you can see the veins in their throat as they’re getting ready to rage. You’re like, “Okay, I know what’s coming. So I’m ready.” I’m a professional. So I’m ready to take the blow and sidestep the punch and move the process forward. That’s what I do professionally.

    Trina: Awesome. Next question is: have you ever seen that after a divorce, after couples divorce, that they reconcile? Have you had that happen?

    Joe: Once. It’s pretty rare because by the time you get to this process – there’s a law firm out of the UK, I forget their name, but they did a study and they asked their clients, “How long have you been thinking about getting a divorce?” When they added it all up, apparently it averaged out to two years and one month. Not exactly two years – two years and one month.

    When somebody’s been thinking about divorce for that long, usually the decision has been made and it’s not something that they make as a snap decision. You see those people who yell, “I want a divorce!” in the heat of an argument. That to me is just frustration. That’s all that is. It’s “I’m really angry that this person that I love, that I care about doesn’t understand me or we have this issue that we can’t resolve and it’s really frustrating me.” That’s not the person who wants a divorce.

    The person who wants a divorce goes away quietly, thinks about it for a really long time, talks to their friends, talks to a therapist, talks to a lawyer, goes and reads a book, subscribes to a blog, listens to your podcast. Then two years later comes to the other spouse and says, “You know what? This isn’t working for me.” I see it all the time in my practice. Some people will say “I’ve been unhappy for seven years, 10 years, 17 years.” You’re like, “Oh my goodness, 17 years.” “Yeah. Well, we had a kid. I didn’t want to have the child raised without parents.” You’re like, “Okay.” Very rare because usually that one person’s driving it. Like I said, just once. I would be happy if it was more, but just once.

    Trina: Well, your career is still young.

    Joe: That’s right. There’s always next time.

    Trina: Yeah. Along those lines, for the MLCers, a lot of times the other spouse feels like the rug was pulled out from under them. They are shocked that all of a sudden they get a Post-it saying, “I’m out of here,” or “I’m having an affair with the neighbor next door.” Do those kind of clients come across you as well?

    Joe: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Because think about it. This person’s been thinking about it for two years in silence. And the other person’s going along, “la, la, la, everything’s okay.” Then finally the leaving spouse gets up the courage to say, “I’m done.” Usually the other person is kind of shocked about this.

    In my experience, just little statistics – as a numbers guy, I love the numbers, as you would imagine – statistically about 70% of divorces are filed by women. Coach Cheryl will tell you that typically, and I will say this – I am a man. So I can say this. Now granted, I was raised by my mom and Italian grandmother. So I have a lot of those sensibilities as well. I got instilled with a lot of those lessons, which was great.

    But guys are usually clueless about this kind of stuff. The women are the ones that are churning those emotions and thinking those things and staying up at night and fretting and worrying and wondering. The guys are just oblivious going along with “Hey, everything’s fine. She hasn’t said anything. It’s cool. She must be tired or it must be the kids or it must be work.” There’s always some other reason.

    There’s not a lot of guys who we run across who go, “Yeah, I noticed she was unhappy and I engaged with her and I asked if we could go to counseling and, Joe, we’re here now because we really tried and it didn’t work.” That maybe happened once or twice in my career.

    More often than not, it’s like we call that person the reluctant spouse because what they’re doing now – and it’s typically the guy – is “Well, we could fix this. We could work on this. There’s got to be something we can do.” The other person has been thinking about it for, if you believe this firm in the UK, more than two years. That’s a long time to undo that thinking. That’s usually the bomb drop. It’s like the other person thinks that some kind of bomb went off, where it’s more often than not, it’s just been low-level smoldering with a really long fuse. Now finally the fuse ran out and boom. There you are.

    Trina: Wow. Okay. Our next question here: should we secure a lawyer to review mediation outcomes? It’s a two-parter. And then if the left-behind spouse earns more than the MLCer, what should we consider in negotiations as the left-behind spouse? So I guess we’ll do the first one first. Should we secure a lawyer to review mediation outcomes?

    Joe: If you’re talking about your outcomes in mediation, I recommend that. We always encourage people – our philosophy is this. Some mediators will require you to retain an attorney through mediation. We say to you, we don’t require it, but we highly encourage it because unless you’re a legal professional, look, I do this all day. Some days I walk out of my office and go, “Well, that was confusing.”

    If I am a trained professional – I have taught mediation classes at Northwestern in Chicago for other professional organizations, I’ve given lectures at conferences – and even I am sometimes perplexed at how this all works. If I don’t know it and I eat, sleep and breathe it, how does a person who’s going through divorce know it? That’s what lawyers are for.

    The lawyers will come through. When you have a lawyer in a process like this, what we say is “Look, ask for a referral. You want a mediation-friendly lawyer. You don’t want a lawyer who’s going to go in and say, ‘Well, what are you going to mediation for? We can blow this whole thing up and we’ll take them to the cleaners.’” That’s not the point because you never know. When people say things like “I guarantee if I go to court” or “I know the judge will say I’m entitled to,” I’m like, “Good luck to you.” The law is really fuzzy. I’m not a lawyer, but the law is really fuzzy and people think there’s some guarantee and there’s not.

    You’re better off controlling your own outcome in mediation and then going to a lawyer and saying, “Look, here’s what I gave. Here’s what I got. Am I within the realm of possibility?” A good lawyer is going to go, “Yeah, you know what? Because if you had a good mediator, I think that’s the real key. They’re going to say, ‘You know what? Yeah, you could have gotten a couple more bucks on child support, but you got more than half the bank account. That might have topped another $30,000.’” They’re like, “You know what? At the end of the day, this looks like it’s pretty good.” That’s all you can hope for.

    Trina: Do they need to get their own attorney or?

    Joe: Most of the time. An attorney can only represent one person. Now, if you have an attorney – we call them review attorneys or filing attorneys. They’ve got different names. Sometimes there’s a couple who will say, “Look” – I’ve had this. This is a real-world example. I had a gentleman. He was the CFO of a bank and his wife was a high school graduate who worked at the Apple store. They were both super nice and he could not have been nicer and more generous and more patient in explaining everything. I’m a finance guy. So I didn’t want her to feel like “Oh, gosh, these two guys know all these numbers.”

    My fake client names are Bob and Sue. Just so you know, these are not real names for people. But we said, “Sue, listen, here’s three colleagues of mine. They’re all great attorneys. This was in Chicago. They are all great attorneys. They’re super friendly. I know them personally. Pick one, go talk to them, show them your agreement and ask them what they think.” She did that and she came back and we made a few tweaks here and there, but I felt better. The husband felt better. She felt better because nobody wanted to stick it to anybody.

    In that case, the attorney really provided a lot of not only value, but comfort. In some cases, you’ll get a couple who’ll say, “Listen, if you want to get a lawyer, that’s cool. Let them review it, make sure it passes muster with the legal mumbo jumbo and let them do the filing on both of our behalfs.” We see that a lot too. People can do that.

    One will get the lawyer and ask the questions, but not ask the questions like “Hey, what can I do to change this more?” Like “Is this okay? Like this is what we both want. Is this legally binding? Is this…” That’s where lawyers can really play a good role in the mediation process. If they want to flip over the whole apple cart and destroy everything, that’s not the right lawyer. That’s not even the right lawyer for a non-mediation client. Because that’s the pit bull lawyer. That’s the “you’re an ATM slot machine” lawyer. Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. It’ll cost you $30,000 to get that other $100 a year in child support.

    Trina: Actually I had a question there. And now I forgot what it was. I’ll go to another listener question and then I’ll go back to my question. Oh, you know what? My question was, how do you know as a mediator that one of the spouses is not hiding money?

    Joe: As a finance person, you’re very much about process and rules and formulas. Having parents who have been through this before and being married to someone who’s been divorced, I have a heightened sensitivity to the emotional aspect of it. But I also take a very analytical approach to it. There’s a couple of things that we can do that vary in levels of intensity.

    The first thing – I don’t have to tell you it’s secrets, but I want your listeners to know this because I want them to feel empowered. That’s why we do this. That’s why I do this because I want people to get educated. My friends don’t want to listen to me talk about this. So hopefully your listeners do.

    The first thing we do is we say, “Look, go through a discovery process.” That’s just getting all the stuff out on the table. The bank accounts, the credit card statements, the tax returns and all that stuff. There’s a lot of websites out there that’ll tell you, “Oh, here’s your checklist of items to gather.” That’s all well and good. But to be truthful about it, every attorney, every mediator has their own process. The reality is those things don’t really do you as much good as you think they do. But setting that aside, the thing that really comes into play is budgets.

    Here’s the thing with budgets. What I ask clients to do is I ask them to do a joint budget. Give me what your expenses look like for the past 12 months of your life. I have this proprietary budget workbook that we have a course that you can buy on our website. It’s part of that package. I think it’s got like 120 lines to it, all these line items. They do this joint budget. Then I go through it with them line by line. Having seen so many of these, I know that if somebody puts $100 down for a grocery bill for a family of four, I’m like, “Guys, come on. Are you starving your kids? Should I report you to family services?” I really know that groceries are probably about $800 a month. Nowadays are probably more.

    I go line by line and then I add it all up in all these categories. I say, “Well, okay, here’s the bottom line. This is what you need to make ends meet.” Let’s say it’s $10,000 a month. For those of us who live in California, that’s probably low. But elsewhere, for your listeners it could be high, but let’s just use 10k. Now I say, “Okay, to make this example really easy, say only one spouse is working outside the home and the other one is working inside the home, not earning the paycheck.” They so deserve to earn as a person working home to raise the kids.

    This person is making $150,000 a year. So after taxes, it’s about $110,000. I say, “Well, okay, in that example, this is real easy. I know they’re going to be short and they’re going to amass credit card debt.” But then if I have somebody who’s making $250,000 and let’s say they bring home $200k and their budget tells me they spend $120,000 a year, but they have no savings. They’re amassing credit card debt. They’re not putting money in their 401k and they didn’t have some massive medical emergency or their roof fell off their house and it was $50,000. That’s my flag. It’s like you’ve reported to me and I’ve looked at your budget and I’m pretty good at this. I’ve seen thousands of these things. You look at it and you go, “All right, wait a minute. You should easily be able to make ends meet here. But who voluntarily pays 29% on the credit card?” Nobody voluntarily. You do it if you’re trapped. If you had a big car repair, you had to pay for your kids’ braces or whatever it is. That to me is the question mark. That’s the “hmm, okay.”

    The other thing I’ll have people do is run their free credit report. There’s a website out there, government website. I think it’s called annualcreditreport.com. Once a year, you’re allowed to get your credit report from all three agencies. It’s not your score. It shows all open lines of credit. I ask each spouse to pull their credit report and we have a file-sharing system box. We ask you to upload it and I’ll go through it. As part of our discovery process, I also ask clients to fill out a balance sheet where they list all their open credit cards. Now I can match up that credit report to what they reported, self-reported as to the debts that they have.

    Trina: That’s usually where if you’re going to find something, you’re going to find a credit card that wasn’t reported that’s been active or a car loan or something or other. Like a mortgage or something. One of our partners just had that happen. She just discovered another property owned by her husband and their partner.

    Joe: Exactly. That happens with vehicles. People buy vehicles for their other spouse. Usually they’re expensive vehicles, Cadillac Escalades, big Ford pickup trucks. That’s a trigger. Now, I don’t see it, but I’m still suspicious. Then what I’m also going to do is refer them to a forensic accountant. This person is like on the CSI shows – they are the financial CSI. These people have access to all kinds of tools where they can get access to all your accounts and tax returns and all that stuff. They’re going to figure it out.

    At the end of the day, I will say this to your listeners. Even for the people who may be the ones who are in the hiding money camp, I can tell you that there are a lot of smart people in this process. Judges don’t become judges because they’re dummies. These are really smart people. Lawyers are really smart people. Forensic accountants, really smart people. Somebody somewhere is going to catch this. If you think you’re more clever than people who have gone to school for like a combined 700 years or whatever it is, you are sadly mistaken.

    We have in mediation and in a lot of these kinds of agreements, we have something we call either the poison pill or the double-edged sword, and it goes like this. I write this into all of my agreements. It says, if one of the spouses has knowingly concealed an asset and it’s later revealed, 100% of that asset will go to the non-concealing spouse. If they’ve knowingly concealed a debt, 100% of that debt will be retained by the concealing spouse. That’s a real common clause to see.

    Even if something crops up down the road, that’s still sitting in your divorce decree. That’s like a landmine that you can step on years down the road. That’s the other piece of it. You try to explain to people, “Look, you might think you’re clever. I know something’s going on here. I’m not going to call you out. I’m not going to blame you. I’m not going to accuse you. But I promise you, it’s better to get it out here in confidential mediation than when you’re standing in front of a judge because judges don’t like that. They really don’t like that.”

    Then you’re going to be in a whole different world of hurt than you are if you just came clean now, screamed at each other, and then we put it on the balance sheet as “this is your liability” or “this became a dissipation of marital assets.” That’s really what we want to emphasize. Do the right thing now because it’s far less painful to do it now than it would be down the road.

    Trina: Good deal. Okay. The other question, what about if the left-behind spouse makes more than the one that’s in midlife crisis? What should we consider in negotiations? But I guess that comes down to that balance sheet.

    Joe: It comes down to assets, liabilities, income, because obviously if somebody leaves, here’s another thing that I think a lot of people fail to realize: just because you walk out doesn’t mean your responsibility for the mortgage goes away or the car payments or the cable bill. People think like, “What’s not my problem anymore?” Well, kind of it is if your name is on the mortgage. The person who’s left behind, especially if they’re the higher earner, is most likely going to be the one who’s carrying that.

    That’s part of the negotiation strategy – to basically say, “Look, this is great. You can leave, but this is still your share of all what happened. The kids, the clothes, the food, the sports camps, all of that. I’m going to retain that as part of the process. As well as everything else that I had to do in order to instigate this process, to retain an attorney, to pay for a mediator.” These are all the kinds of things that do crop up in our conversations.

    You say, “Look, you can go if you want, but if you want to go, you still have these responsibilities.” I think a lot of people think they can just leave. “Oh, if I left, it’s not my problem, ha, ha, it’s yours.” That’s not really how this works. If your name is on the bottom line, the bank is still going to call your house no matter where you live. That’s something – somebody who has been the left-behind spouse, it is important for them to say, “Look, keep track of all the things that I have now had to take on myself in order to keep this house running, to keep our kids happy and healthy, to keep our lives moving forward and make sure that that does come up in your negotiations.”

    Trina: Must be hard too when one of the spouses is self-employed.

    Joe: It really is because I’m self-employed. Like I was saying before, I barely understand my own finances. And I have a master’s in finance. You look at your books and you’re like, “This doesn’t make any sense.”

    Trina: Yeah. Or like me, I’m a full-time realtor. So my income fluctuates a lot.

    Joe: That can make it tough.

    Trina: Okay. Next question, you sort of touched on this, but I’ll ask the question just so we get it out there. My soon-to-be ex will not produce certain bank statements and account balances for mediation as it highlights the money that he has taken from our savings and spent on the other woman, including an engagement ring. There you go. What would the mediator’s opinion be on this? On whether there’s even any point wasting my time? Should I just go straight to litigation or should I ignore this?

    Joe: That’s not a mediation-friendly case. Mediation is what we call a good faith negotiation. It requires full disclosure from the parties of all documents. We have what we call a discovery checklist where we give to parties and we say, “Look, we don’t ask for anything that’s completely obnoxious and over the top. We’re not asking for your blood type, but if we ask for it, we need it. And there’s a reason. We’re trained professionals. This is what the process requires.”

    You want to talk about red flags. Trina, this is the biggest red flag that I could ever possibly imagine. When I ask somebody, “Hey, can you upload a copy of last year’s tax return?” and they reply, “Why do you need that?” Okay. There – grab the rope. Let’s hoist it up the flag pole. Look at the flag flapping in the breeze. This is an example of that. It’s like, “Okay, because I need it.” It’s sort of like you’re almost parental in a way. When we were little kids, “why can’t I go outside?” “Because I said so.” Sometimes that has to be good enough.

    As the authority, as the mediator, in a good faith negotiation, it requires full disclosure. If anything is asked for by either myself or the other party, I am the final arbiter. I am the one that says, “Yes, please provide that” or “No, you’re being ridiculous.” I rarely say you’re being ridiculous because in most cases, people are saying, “Well, give me copies of your pay stubs.” “Why do you need that?” “Because I need to know how much you make.” You’d be surprised at how many even of the mediation-friendly spouses don’t know what their spouse makes, how much they make. They keep separate checking accounts, separate bank accounts. In those cases, it might not even be something insidious. It’s just how they set their finances up. I’m like, “Okay, this is a problem.” If we’re going to talk about child support and alimony, you both need to know how much the other person makes because that’s the foundation of this negotiation.

    In that case, unfortunately, that doesn’t really sound like a mediation-friendly case. That’s one where you’re going to need to get an attorney who’s going to be able to use the court system to force that individual to produce those items.

    Trina: Okay. In this case, do you think she should try to – if she’s gotten an attorney, should she try to push that to get those? I mean, if they’re doing discovery, he’s supposed to provide the bank statements.

    Joe: People should. That’s where the lawyers will come in and they can use… If she doesn’t, I mean, that would be a thing where the judge would say, “You produce it or else.”

    Trina: Probably.

    Joe: I’ve never been divorced or in a court like that, but that would be my understanding. The legal system exists for a reason. A lot of people do that just to be obtuse. They just do it to be a nudge about it and frustrate the other person. Sometimes, we also see that – remember, we talked about the whole two-year decision-making process, the reluctant spouse – that’s another way of dragging their feet. That’s another way of staying married and tethering myself to you by not providing X, Y, or Z. Sometimes it’s an emotional manipulation as well as a financial one. Those are the harder ones. Financial manipulation, you can go to court and get the judge to say, “Send in the damn tax returns and then it happens or you’re going to jail.” But the emotional one, the dragging the feet, those are the hard ones. Those are the ones where the legal system really isn’t equipped for that. But certainly that’s where the attorneys – we’re very supportive of attorneys in the process. If it’s a case where you can’t mediate, then you escalate to that next level.

    Trina: Okay. These personality types – we see some of these questions sort of similar in a way. This one is: how do you handle power imbalances in situations where one spouse is clearly manipulating and taking advantage of the other?

    Joe: That’s a perfect segue to what I was just talking about. Because there are two types of power imbalances. There are emotional ones and financial ones. When we think about the emotional ones, the way we offset that as a mediator is by asking questions and really listening to the disadvantaged spouse. Remember, we talked before about how that other person who’s trying to control the situation is always talking and cutting you off. One of my favorite things to say is when that person is going off and the other person typically will shut down. Going back to our friends Bob and Sue, let’s say we’ll flip it around and this time it’ll be Bob who’s the disadvantaged spouse. I’ll lean in to the camera and I’ll lean and say, “Don’t worry, Bob, I’m listening to you. Please continue.” Even if the other person is still coming at me.

    Again, it’s that whole taking the oxygen out of the fire. I don’t want to – like little kids who are like “mom, mom, mom, mom,” they’re going to keep doing that till they get the result and they learn that they’re going to get the result. They keep doing it. But if the person who’s on fire realizes that this guy isn’t going to listen to me if I escalate, they’re probably going to calm down. They’re going to cool down. Then this other person feels heard and validated, acknowledged. This is coaching as well. It’s acknowledging and validating. They probably haven’t been listened to for a very long time in their relationship. There’s a sense of empowerment that comes along that says, “Well, hey, this mediator guy, this Joe Dillon guy, he values what I have to say. He’s listening to me. I am worth something. My opinion does matter.” That little puff up the chest, that’s what I want. I want you to put on the big boy pants and the big girl pants and say, “Look, yeah, my opinion does matter.” So I’m asking those questions, engaging them.

    The other thing is – speaking of which – with Cheryl. When Cheryl coaches with our clients, when I work with our clients, it’s always one on two. I’m always – because I’m a neutral. I work for both parties at the same time. Cheryl is always one on one. The great thing about working with a coach like Cheryl is to say, “Okay, I have your back. I am your advocate, just you. Let’s talk about what’s bothering you. Let’s work through this conversation. When you get into mediation with Joe and your spouse, what are you going to say? How are you going to act and react? How are you going to manage your anger?” What Cheryl does is she kind of gets them to tap into that inner strength and wisdom, as she calls it. I’m using some of her words. I try to blend those in because she does have a lot of good stuff. She says, “Look, you really are worth it. You are – your opinion matters. You are half of this marriage, you are half of this agreement, you’re half of this negotiation.” Having a coach in your corner can also help you. It’s just like if you were an actor in a play, you wouldn’t go in without rehearsing your lines. You just wouldn’t show up on the stage and wing it. You’d have Cheryl, somebody like Cheryl to kind of help you do that. That’s the emotional piece.

    Now, on the financial piece, it can be on purpose. It can be just a pattern that’s developed over time, where somebody is the household accountant. For example, in my house, Cheryl pays all of our bills. So if Trina, you asked me, “Hey, how much is your electric bill?” I’d be like, “I have no idea. Ask Cheryl.” But in this case, the way I do that is again, we go back to those budgets and that balance sheet process. We have this file-sharing system I mentioned, and we have them upload budgets and balance sheets where you can even exchange this information. Then I go through it line by line with both of them in session in real time. What that does is it really levels the playing field. Because now somebody says, and this is what I’m also listening for – I just said it – “I didn’t know you had two 401ks.” That’s also like a little tick mark in the back of my head to go, “Okay, circle back to that.” Because I don’t know what this person really knows about the finances, as a mediator, you’re actively listening for that. By putting all those things in front of everybody and I say, “Okay, any surprises here, any assets you weren’t aware of, any debt you weren’t aware of, do the budgets make sense?” We try to at least level that playing field and help people at least go in from a position of strength when they start to negotiate. Of course, there’s always interpersonal dynamics that are going to unfold that you’re constantly managing as a mediator. But those would be the ways that I’d see it on the emotional side and the financial side.

    Trina: Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Because yeah, the foundation is key there. This might be because we’re almost at time – this will be my last question for today. But we have other questions. So we might have to do another. Would you be okay with that?

    Joe: Yeah, sure.

    Trina: And especially with Mrs. Dillon, does she go by Mrs. Dillon?

    Joe: Yeah, she’s Cheryl. Yeah, absolutely. Certainly get her on. People are probably sick of listening to me by now.

    Trina: No, not at all. After today, we’ll have even more questions. But this will be my final one of the day. I would love to know if they can spot someone that’s in midlife crisis. I know we mentioned you knew when your dad had a midlife crisis visually from his changing hairstyle.

    Joe: Exactly. I’ll share that with the listeners. My dad was the Irish Catholic epitome, beer drinking, in construction. Such a stereotype. He had the 50s greaser hair, used the VO5 and slicked it back. He wore jeans and t-shirts. He drove a pickup truck. It was just like, it sounds like – yeah.

    Trina: He kind of looked like – absolutely, that’s exactly it’s a great analogy.

    Joe: So one day he comes home with a perm. I’m like 11 or whatever. You’re like, “Huh, what is this?” Because you knew your dad had straight hair and I have straight hair and I’m like, “Wow, this is weird.” He didn’t buy a sports car or anything, but then he got the perm. He was a guy who was like more of a homebody kind of guy doing projects around the house, playing catch with me and that kind of stuff. Then he started going out a lot more. He would go out with friends and he’d go out to baseball games or to bars or whatever it was. He was coming home less.

    Those kinds of telltale signs – physical appearance, that other kind of appearance. For us, once they’re in my space, they’ve already come to that conclusion, they’re divorcing. So I’m not really seeing those kinds of things. What we can see, though, is a little bit of the behavior. For example, vehicle purchases, going out entertainment, those kinds of things where people are getting into those spaces where they’re not necessarily happy with the way their life is going or went. They’re looking to kind of make some significant change. Joining a gym, those kinds of things. Those are the sort of subtle things. Oddly enough, where those things pop up are once again, in the budgets and the balance sheets. If you start seeing the entertainment line or the health club line or the clothing budget, as I explore each line item, you can start asking some questions and kind of getting a vibe as to who’s spending money on what. Because that really – when you think about it – when you think about us as individuals, we spend our money on what we value. For example, I’m a musician, I like to play musical instruments. So rather than go out to fancy dinners, I’d rather buy a new guitar. That’s where I would spend my money. As you start to explore those questions and you start to understand what people are buying, spending their money on motorcycles, they’re always a good example. I like that. A motorcycle is a good – unless you’re a biker, that’s usually a good sort of checkmark, like, “Okay, you bought a motorcycle. All right, let’s talk about that.”

    Trina: And does that make your job of mediating them a little more difficult at all?

    Joe: Well, it does in the sense that that’s sort of an inflated lifestyle. What you have to explain to people is that when you’re getting a divorce, two households are more expensive to run than one. In order to run those two households, that’s going to require both parties to cut back financially, unless you’re independently wealthy, which, if you are, God bless you, I’m not. These things that you were doing or going out or buying, this is probably going to need to change. If you want to go into debt when you’re divorced and do it on your own, knock yourself out, but that’s probably not something that this post-marital lifestyle under normal circumstances is going to sustain. We need people to acknowledge that. If they want to do that, like I said, I’m never going to tell you what to do. You are the master of your own domain, you are in charge of your own life. If you want to buy yourself three motorcycles and a boat after you’re divorced, as long as it’s on your credit card or your credit history, knock yourself out.

    Trina: Exactly. Okay. Well, I think that might be our final question of the day.

    Joe: There you go. Well, I hope I was able to answer the questions.

    Trina: I think so. It sounds like a lot of good questions. Yeah. One thing on the MLC is like some of the spouses just aren’t there emotionally. I don’t know if – I’m hoping that as they go through mediation, if they want to work this through, they can come to terms. I’ve heard that people sometimes in MLC will compartmentalize.

    Joe: Yeah. They compartmentalize enough to get through mediation. So I think that mediation is a great choice for people.

    Trina: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, when you think about it, you have an excellent chance at coming to an agreement. At least with us, I know that usually industry averages around 70% for mediation, but that’s still pretty high. It’s still pretty high odds. It’s a peaceful process, more peaceful. It’s more cost-effective. It’s faster. The beauty of it is that because mediation is not binding until a couple makes it binding, you can give it a shot. You don’t have to feel like, “Oh my gosh, I went through mediation. I’m stuck with this thing.” Like we talked about, we encourage you to have an attorney review it. Make sure that we didn’t miss anything, you didn’t miss anything, the other spouse didn’t miss anything. By having people go through that process, give it a shot. The worst thing that happens – we’ve had, like I said, we’ve had a handful of people who haven’t come to an agreement, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t come to some agreements. They might not have made it all the way through. Usually there’s one or two sticking points, but I’m like, “Guys, just take all the work you’ve done, take the 90 to 95% of the work that you absolutely agree on, give it to your lawyers, use it, and then just work with them to finish the last three or four things.” Even in that case, you still have a great shot of moving through the process efficiently, cost-effectively, and quite frankly, peacefully, because when you’re done with this, you don’t want to be the shut-in, you want to go out and have your life, you want to live your life, you want to have friends, you maybe want to date again or get remarried again, whatever it is. The sooner you get through the ugliness of this process, the sooner you can start doing those things.

    Trina: That sounds pretty good. Maybe next time we’ll talk about what if they do want to get married again, they might want to do separate checking accounts. When they meet the mediator, it’ll be easier. We haven’t talked about prenups because I’m not a lawyer. But mediators do prenups, and I’m a big fan. I don’t see there’s… people…

    Joe: People think of prenups as like, “Whoa, we’re going to get divorced.” No, I mean, just be smart. It could be very general. You save yourself the acrimony of going through this litigious divorce. If you’ve got premarital assets, like Cheryl and I, we both got married a little older. We each owned a house. That’s one of those situations where you’re like, “Well, this is your house, this is my house, and we should write this down and say, ‘Look, this, we got it. If anything happens in the next years, you’ll keep that, I’ll keep this. But then after that, we’re together.’” That’s what we did. Here we are. Thankfully, we just celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary. We’re long past the need for that. But again, they underestimate documentation. They don’t want to do it. It’s onerous. It feels bad. It feels negative. I wholeheartedly disagree. Be smart. Just protect yourself. Be kind, be fair.

    Trina: You don’t share toothbrushes. Just do a prenup.

    Joe: Just say, “Hey, how are we going to do this? How are we going to divide things if, God forbid, in the future, this doesn’t work out?”

    Trina: Makes sense. Some of our listeners are getting in the midst of getting separated right now or separated. They still have time to do a post-nup.

    Joe: Absolutely. We have people who bring those to us and they help. They certainly help when you go through them. The only thing I would advise them to do is for each of them to have their own lawyer review it so that no one down the road in the future can say, “Well, I didn’t have a lawyer or I was unrepresented or I didn’t know what you were talking about.” I really strongly advise, even if you work with a mediator to do one, have each have your own attorney review it, put the legal mumbo jumbo in there, formalize it, sign it, do whatever all the things lawyers have to do with it so that down the road… I can’t tell you, I have a lot of people come to me with prenups that they never signed. They did one and then one person’s lawyer put it together, but they never signed it. It’s like, “Guys, you were – it’s like to use a sports analogy like football, you’re at the goal line, just step across. Just sign it.” They never signed it. The other person says, “Well, I never signed it.” You’re like, “Wow, okay, this could have been so much easier, but all right, well, lesson learned.”

    Trina: Yeah. That’s a lesson you learn once, you’re not going to do it again.

    Joe: Exactly.

    Trina: Well, Joe, thank you so much. It was great meeting you today. I know there were a lot of questions and hopefully this really helped. I know it did and we will probably be talking to you and Cheryl in the future.

    Joe: Cheryl, the divorce coach extraordinaire.

    Trina: Absolutely. All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us today and we will talk again soon.

    Joe: All right, Trina. Thank you.

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